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    Seeking Diet help from your steroidal gurus!

    Normal weight 190 13%

    Few weeks before I start I pulled back on carbs, dropped to 184

    Maintenance seems to fall at about 2300 cals (from experience rather than exact calculations)

    Prop/tren /var 8 weeks

    Im 3 days into diet and hating every minute of it, especially at night my body is craving carbs.

    My plan here is to recomp, drop bf%

    Eat at maintenance for the first few weeks, then adjust depending on what the mirror says.

    Any of you guys feel free to comment and help a guy out to better results, man my stomach is hating me at bed time

    Diet I'm trying to keep easy and simple

    please excuse my choice for white rice over brown, it just seems to go down better

    Cardio is 35-40 4-5 days per week moderate pace


    MEAL 1
    4 EGG WHITES
    1 EGG WHOLE
    CUP OATS

    MEAL 2
    60Z 99%FF GROUND TURKEY
    1 CUP WHITE RICE

    MEAL 3
    60Z CHICKEN BREAST
    1 MED/LARGE SWEET POTATOE
    GREENS

    MEAL 4
    BSN SYNTHA -6 1.5 SCOUPS
    1 CUP WHITE RICE

    WORKOUT

    MEAL 5 ( POST WO)
    BSN SYNTHA-6 1.5 SCOUPS
    CUP OATS

    MEAL 6
    6OZ CHICKEN BREAST
    GREENS

    MEAL 7
    1 CAN TUNA BEFORE BED( WAS CONSIDERING COTTAGE CHEESE FF BUT MAY AVOID DAIRY)


    233P 219C 40F

    about 2200 ( not including veges or if i seek a glass of almond milk)

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    What time are you training and waking up? When you say greens what exactly does that mean? Can you list exactly what greens you eat?

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    i have about 1/2 cup broccoli along side of about 1/2 cup spinach leaves in both servings.

    I wake up at 615 AM ( pin peps)

    m1 is 7:30
    m2: 9:30
    m3:11;45
    m4: 2:30
    GYM lift then cardio
    m5 post w/o
    m6 6;45
    m7 9:00
    BED
    Last edited by LARGERTHANNORMAL; 04-23-2013 at 03:44 PM.

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    probably a little more than a half of a cup but I dont count them i just eat a handfull of each ( prolly not the best idea)


    every meal is weighted out exactly to the oz ( except the sweet potato i just try to make sure they are all same size)


    * i think i know your gettin at my carb placement.

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    Meal one is pretty small with only 4 whites. I would bump it to 8 whites. 200 grams of sweet potato is 40 grams of carbs uncooked. I would weigh them. I think you should add more greens to your meals and have greens with meal 7 as well. You could have a piece of fruit with meal one as well. You are eating about what I eat for maintenance and you have 30 lbs on me

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    Ill up the whites, and weight the potatoes ( good call)

    the potato i microwave, is that okay?

    ill see what I can do on the greens and add in a small piece of fruit in meal 1

    that should get me up a few cals.

    ya but your shorter( not that that matters) and and prolly a good 2% leaner than I , our LBM is probably only 12-15 lbs different. which is about 200 calories( i could be a off?) maybe i should bump them a tad? I will add the few things in bro and recalculate.

    recommendation on fruit and serving size?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim230027 View Post
    Meal one is pretty small with only 4 whites. I would bump it to 8 whites. 200 grams of sweet potato is 40 grams of carbs uncooked. I would weigh them. I think you should add more greens to your meals and have greens with meal 7 as well. You could have a piece of fruit with meal one as well. You are eating about what I eat for maintenance and you have 30 lbs on me

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    Quote Originally Posted by LARGERTHANNORMAL View Post
    Ill up the whites, and weight the potatoes ( good call)

    the potato i microwave, is that okay?

    ill see what I can do on the greens and add in a small piece of fruit in meal 1

    that should get me up a few cals.

    ya but your shorter( not that that matters) and and prolly a good 2% leaner than I , our LBM is probably only 12-15 lbs different. which is about 200 calories( i could be a off?) maybe i should bump them a tad? I will add the few things in bro and recalculate.

    recommendation on fruit and serving size?
    Yeah I microwave mine. I like the texture better that way with my sweet potatoes. It makes them more like a russet instead of mushy when you cook them in the oven. If you post up the macros for each meal we can tweak it more? I think you are close though

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    sure, let me work them out, ill add in the eggs and proper facts for weighed out potatoe.

    any type of fruit okay?

    veges i love me some broccoli can i just stick in a bit in meal 7?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LARGERTHANNORMAL View Post
    sure, let me work them out, ill add in the eggs and proper facts for weighed out potatoe.

    any type of fruit okay?

    veges i love me some broccoli can i just stick in a bit in meal 7?
    I love my orange juice in the morning but berry s are another great one on top of you oats. Yummy

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    ill get on in bro, thanks for the help!!

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    More fiber! You are eating a lot of cabs through the day. I would assume your body will adjust. Green leafy veggies.

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    Sounds good I'll make some adjustments

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    I'm dropping weight fast guys I don't like it.. Ahhhh

    I'm down 4 lbs in 3 days.. Cardio is ed 25min at 6mph
    I'm upping cals by just a tad 2morro. Adding in those eggs n a few more veges and fruit in morning .. Maybe I'll up a portion size as well..

    Damn scale I should toss the thing

    Im looking leaner/ smaller already... I'm sure its just swapping to complete clean eating and cardio

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    You can get a good digital scal for about 20 bucks bro. Have you lost any strength?

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    Nope I hit 355 for a single on Monday on flat. Personal best is 365.

    I compete so I can measure strength very well on bench

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    Quote Originally Posted by LARGERTHANNORMAL View Post
    Nope I hit 355 for a single on Monday on flat. Personal best is 365.

    I compete so I can measure strength very well on bench
    Your not shrinking. This is part of the game diet, bulk, diet, bulk........

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    I've always had a fear of a full cutter as the scale messes with my head..this is my second attempt of a cutter, last cutter was natural and I just lost mass everywhere. I'm hoping the aas does its part and despite weight I'll appear larger.

    I think I'll use the mirror and put the cals up just a tad like you said..

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    As you diet down people will start complimenting that you look bigger. Leaner looks bigger

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    Thanks man!! I'll update back in a week with the adjustments and results

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    OK I'm back up 1.5lbs and all I added was those 4 egg whites and greens before bed

    I'm on day 4 of my prop/tren/var

    I'm guessing some may be due to that

    I think my water intake dropped by 1/⁴ gallon passed two days , maybe I'm holding a lil more

    I am running 12.5mg ed stand

    I am not sure yet but I thought I felt labido just startn to go up. Could be the caber I dunno

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    Are you weighing yourself first thing in the am after you empty your bladder?

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    I weigh in right after gym. Maybe I was holding a lil. I'll give it week..I'm just glad Im not dropping like mad like I was..

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    I would suggest in the am first thing that way it will be as consistent as possible.

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    Good point..I'll record for a week

    I am at maintanace and doing a recomp at first so I don't really know what the scale should be doing at what stage. Kinda tough to know what's doing wat right now since its so early in the game

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    Are you weighing in every day?

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    Yes but normally its once a week..I guess I'm just nervous to wats going on.. Never tried recomo or cut on aas

    I just need to chill n put in the work n let the aas do its thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by LARGERTHANNORMAL View Post
    Yes but normally its once a week..I guess I'm just nervous to wats going on.. Never tried recomo or cut on aas

    I just need to chill n put in the work n let the aas do its thing
    Yeah weighing in every day will drive you crazy. Judge it by how your close fit and how you look.

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    The mirror is my friend right now, feeling and looking a hair more lean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LARGERTHANNORMAL View Post
    The mirror is my friend right now, feeling and looking a hair more lean.
    Now we are talking

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    Yeah budday!! Lol

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