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    Here's what I have so far for a 16 week cycle:
    250mg test enanthate/w taper up to 500mg 4-8 weeks in
    150mg tren enanthate/w taper up to 300mg 4-8 weeks in
    Caber .25mg e3d
    Nolva 10mg ed
    HCG 250 iu e3d
    igf1-lr3 50mcg ed first 40 days and during pct
    CJC and GHRP 100mcg 3x/day


    What I'm looking for advice on, is what else can I add to this? I only have experience with test and tren, and really don't know what else to add. An oral perhaps? Not a fan of dbol.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Bull View Post
    Here's what I have so far for a 16 week cycle:
    250mg test enanthate/w taper up to 500mg 4-8 weeks in
    150mg tren enanthate/w taper up to 300mg 4-8 weeks in
    Caber .25mg e3d
    Nolva 10mg ed
    HCG 250 iu e3d
    igf1-lr3 50mcg ed first 40 days and during pct
    CJC and GHRP 100mcg 3x/day


    What I'm looking for advice on, is what else can I add to this? I only have experience with test and tren, and really don't know what else to add. An oral perhaps? Not a fan of dbol.
    No AI?

    I'd run an AI, control estrogen and then keep Nolva on hand.

    Also, why the ramp in doses?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Admin View Post
      No AI?

      I'd run an AI, control estrogen and then keep Nolva on hand.

      Also, why the ramp in doses?
      Nolva actually brings my sides down and prevents them. Adex doesn't, even at high doses. Letro does slowly but also wrecks my joints. Was taking both adex and letro last cycle and my gyno was not going away, threw nolva in, dropped the other 2, and it started to go away.

      I prefer to ramp up my doses. I feel I get more out of my cycle rather than just keeping a steady amount.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Bull View Post
        Nolva actually brings my sides down and prevents them. Adex doesn't, even at high doses. Letro does slowly but also wrecks my joints. Was taking both adex and letro last cycle and my gyno was not going away, threw nolva in, dropped the other 2, and it started to go away.

        I prefer to ramp up my doses. I feel I get more out of my cycle rather than just keeping a steady amount.
        What about Aromasin at 10mg/ED. That should help control your doses if its real.

        If ramping works for you and doesn't increase sides cool, but I dont think there is much scientific date to support it helps gains. However, I do believe ramping works when you reach a plateau.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Admin View Post
          What about Aromasin at 10mg/ED. That should help control your doses if its real.

          If ramping works for you and doesn't increase sides cool, but I dont think there is much scientific date to support it helps gains. However, I do believe ramping works when you reach a plateau.
          Nearly forgot, I had aromasin in there too at one point. Nolva is the only thing that seems to help me at a reasonable dose.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bull View Post
            Nearly forgot, I had aromasin in there too at one point. Nolva is the only thing that seems to help me at a reasonable dose.
            I'm a fan of controlling estrogen, not letting it get out of control.

            I'd get some Aromasin from CEM out sponsor and use it at 10mg/ED. Its legit and keep the Nolva on hand.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Admin View Post
              What about Aromasin at 10mg/ED. That should help control your doses if its real.

              If ramping works for you and doesn't increase sides cool, but I dont think there is much scientific date to support it helps gains. However, I do believe ramping works when you reach a plateau.
              In total agreement. In my knowledge of this stuff, ramping and tapering theoretically should increase side effects, and even be the cause of the ancillaries not working. Reaching peak and steady blood plasma levels is key inthe control of side effects anyways. Ramping or tapering is a constant inconsistancy of hormones.
              But to answer your question....masteron? Anavar? Winstrol?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by warmouth View Post
                In total agreement. In my knowledge of this stuff, ramping and tapering theoretically should increase side effects, and even be the cause of the ancillaries not working. Reaching peak and steady blood plasma levels is key inthe control of side effects anyways. Ramping or tapering is a constant inconsistancy of hormones.
                But to answer your question....masteron? Anavar? Winstrol?
                Didn't mean to come off as if I was going to do it slowly. I was thinking of upping the dose over a period of a week. Say, 2 shots a week at .5ml. The next week I do .75ml shots, and then the next it's at 1ml.

                Anavar looks like a good choice. I think I'll give that a go!

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                • #9
                  I know youre no rookie to this Bull. I was just giving a little advice on the possibility of reducing sides you seem to struggle with. Anavar is a good choice!

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                  • #10
                    Have you ever had estrogen tested on cycle?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Admin View Post
                      Have you ever had estrogen tested on cycle?
                      I have not. I plan to get routine blood work done once I'm done moving around for school and work though. This time next year I hope.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bull View Post
                        I have not. I plan to get routine blood work done once I'm done moving around for school and work though. This time next year I hope.
                        See where E is, then go from there, but it will be elevated and should be controlled IMO.

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