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    Hi this is the cycle i'm thinking about running, have ran cycles before but not a cutting cycle, any help would be great.

    Cycle:
    Weeks 1-12
    Test E 5-600mg (2 doses per week)
    Weeks 5-12
    Tren A 350mg (50mg ED)
    Aromasin 12.5mg ED
    T3 Taper
    Caber .5mg twice a week (same days you pin test)

    Standard Nolva/Clomid PCT once last ester cleared.

    HCG blast at end of cycle.

  • #2
    Originally posted by roidraver View Post
    Hi this is the cycle i'm thinking about running, have ran cycles before but not a cutting cycle, any help would be great.

    Cycle:
    Weeks 1-12
    Test E 5-600mg (2 doses per week)
    Weeks 5-12
    Tren A 350mg (50mg ED)
    Aromasin 12.5mg ED
    T3 Taper
    Caber .5mg twice a week (same days you pin test)

    Standard Nolva/Clomid PCT once last ester cleared.

    HCG blast at end of cycle.

    oops forgot the most important bit of information.

    previously done 3 cycles aiming more for bulking but i have decided to lower my body fat % and then go on a cut which will be my first cut and first use of tren/t3.

    Current stats:
    age 27
    height 6" 6'
    weight 108kg
    BF % 18 (will get to 15% before starting cycle)

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    • #3
      Cycle looks good to me.

      Do you need the caber?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Admin View Post
        Cycle looks good to me.

        Do you need the caber?
        Most likely not, maybe keep it on hand just in case of prolactin sides?!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by roidraver View Post
          Most likely not, maybe keep it on hand just in case of prolactin sides?!
          Yes, thats what I'd do.

          Less drugs the better.

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          • #6
            Caber is quite fun though

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            • #7
              Originally posted by OnTheSauce View Post
              Caber is quite fun though
              BOOM goes the dynamite! Lol, I agree.

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              • #8
                How are you getting on?

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                • #9
                  I just thought of something. If it were me and I was cutting, I would keep the tren as planned, and drop the test lower, which would eliminate the need for the AI (if kept around 100mgs weekly) and take caber just for funsies. The test could have you hold some water that high, but an AI and diet will help. If it were lower, water wouldnt be an issue. Just wanted to add because I read over it again.

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                  • #10
                    This is what i have decided to go with. thoughts?

                    My stats:
                    27
                    6"6' (199cm)
                    242 pounds (110kg)
                    Body fat% 18 (15% before i cycle)

                    Here is what i have planned:

                    12 week Cycle:

                    Test P 100mg/eod (week 1-12)
                    Tren A 75mg/eod (week 4-9)
                    T3 taper 25/50/75/100/75/50/25mcg (same time as tren. taper t3 to see how i handle it for a first time use)


                    Cycle Support:

                    Caber 1mg per week @ 2x 0.5mg
                    Aromasin 12.5mg ED
                    HCG 500iu per week @ 2x 250iu starting week 3 increasing to 250iu/day for last week before PCT.

                    liv 52 ED
                    Multi-vitamin

                    PCT:
                    Clomid 4 weeks (5 if needed) 100/100/50/50/50
                    Nolva 40/40/20/20




                    is my HCG setup ok, thought of running through-out and a slight increase at the end of the cycle before PCT?

                    Also would i be best to use T3 while using tren? dont want to use T3 for more than 7 weeks and im running Tren for 6 weeks. Was thinking starting the cycle and ending the cycle with test only and doing Tren/T3 in the middle.

                    Also i have heard that running tren higher than test is better for less sides, i would like to do this. How would you change my dosages? also i was thinking of starting off with test p and switching to test e (due to cost), how would you structure this?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by roidraver View Post



                      is my HCG setup ok, thought of running through-out and a slight increase at the end of the cycle before PCT?

                      Also would i be best to use T3 while using tren? dont want to use T3 for more than 7 weeks and im running Tren for 6 weeks. Was thinking starting the cycle and ending the cycle with test only and doing Tren/T3 in the middle.

                      Also i have heard that running tren higher than test is better for less sides, i would like to do this. How would you change my dosages? also i was thinking of starting off with test p and switching to test e (due to cost), how would you structure this?
                      HCG should not be used more frequently than every 2 days.

                      Just switch to the Test Enan and over lap both by 1 week IMO.

                      Have you used Tren before?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Admin View Post
                        HCG should not be used more frequently than every 2 days.

                        Just switch to the Test Enan and over lap both by 1 week IMO.

                        Have you used Tren before?
                        HCG 250iux2 per week.

                        Never ran tren before.

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                        • #13
                          I think you're t3 dose is too high. It is catabolic, I say stay under 50mcg a day

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by roidraver View Post
                            HCG 250iux2 per week.

                            Never ran tren before.
                            Depending on how you feel, you could use 500iu 2x/week... If you tend to get testicular atrophy fast or have a tough time bouncing back after a cycle I would up it to 500iu 2x/week, otherwise, 250iu 2x/week would be fine.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by AtomAnt View Post
                              Depending on how you feel, you could use 500iu 2x/week... If you tend to get testicular atrophy fast or have a tough time bouncing back after a cycle I would up it to 500iu 2x/week, otherwise, 250iu 2x/week would be fine.
                              Agreed, some require more. Especially those getting older and a fair few cycles under their belt.

                              I'd also suggest ramping the HCG dosage for the final 3-5 shots using double the dose.

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