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  • warmouth
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    There is PIP from the 500mg/ml Test. Its lingered all day long. The NPP crystalized on me, so I reheated it and cleared it back up. If it crashes again, I will cut with oil and drop the mg/ml to 150mg.

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  • warmouth
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    Originally posted by Dan C View Post
    I have heard EO is the cause for much PIP though? Where are these claims coming from, then?
    I agree that for many people, it is very painful. I've read thread after thread of horror stories, and have my own suspicions. I think a lot of people are either allergic, or the solvent properties of EO irritates muscles. I can say for myself that EO has caused a lot of pain for me in the past. However, the more I've used it, the less pain. I just pinned 500mg/ml test e and have 0 pain so far. My NPP I brewed at 300mg/ml kept crashing when I was brewing, and even after filtering. I reheated it and has been clear now for 18 hours. I won't pin it until I know.

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  • BEAR
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    I've heard the very same thing Dan, several times over from several different sources. I don't know what to say, all I know is my 100% EO injections are almost 100% pain free.

    Like I said, I believe it's the volume that causes the pain.

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  • Dan C
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    Originally posted by BEAR View Post
    Believe it or not Gents, you can brew a MUCH higher concentration of Tren. using EO as your carrier. I have spent a lot of time trying to figure out how to cut down on volume while maintaining dosage. A friend from "next door" brewed some Tren. A. 200 mg/ml, & Test. E. 800 mg/ml. He said the secret was simply using EO, that stuff will carry anything at any dose. So I tried it myself, I am currently using 500 mg/ml Tren & 1000 mg/ml Test. And just like Warmouth proclaimed, practically painless.....
    I have heard EO is the cause for much PIP though? Where are these claims coming from, then?

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  • warmouth
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    Originally posted by BEAR View Post
    Yea I guess I missed it, sorry.

    But yea, the Tren. 500 & the Test. 1000 are almost painless. I'm a firm believer that it's the volume that causes the pain, not the dose.
    I totally agree! EO does typically cause me some discomfort, but I know I have the most PIP when a lot of volume is injected. Im thinking about getting back on the NPP for 4-6 weeks to finish this out and brew it at 300mg/ml, and pin 100mg ED subQ.

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  • BEAR
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    Yea I guess I missed it, sorry.

    But yea, the Tren. 500 & the Test. 1000 are almost painless. I'm a firm believer that it's the volume that causes the pain, not the dose.

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  • warmouth
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    Originally posted by BEAR View Post
    Believe it or not Gents, you can brew a MUCH higher concentration of Tren. using EO as your carrier. I have spent a lot of time trying to figure out how to cut down on volume while maintaining dosage. A friend from "next door" brewed some Tren. A. 200 mg/ml, & Test. E. 800 mg/ml. He said the secret was simply using EO, that stuff will carry anything at any dose. So I tried it myself, I am currently using 500 mg/ml Tren & 1000 mg/ml Test. And just like Warmouth proclaimed, practically painless.....
    I asked you a few days ago about the 250mg brew. You might have missed it. So, the test e brewed at 500mgs is painless as well? I remembered the "Bear Juice" thread.

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  • Admin
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    EO is a god carrier, 60% was the most I used though. But 100% EO as the carrier would work and be painless.

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  • BEAR
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    Believe it or not Gents, you can brew a MUCH higher concentration of Tren. using EO as your carrier. I have spent a lot of time trying to figure out how to cut down on volume while maintaining dosage. A friend from "next door" brewed some Tren. A. 200 mg/ml, & Test. E. 800 mg/ml. He said the secret was simply using EO, that stuff will carry anything at any dose. So I tried it myself, I am currently using 500 mg/ml Tren & 1000 mg/ml Test. And just like Warmouth proclaimed, practically painless.....

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  • OdinsOtherSon
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    Awesome man. I think you have a lot of info to share here with homebrewing. Looking forward to reading your posts!!

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  • warmouth
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    NO PAIN! No PIP whatsoever. Smooth as silk, and feel great.

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  • warmouth
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    A little stinging at the site 5 minutes after pinning. I will know more on the PIP in the morning and will follow this up.

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  • warmouth
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    I want to add that I have never been able to use a 27ga needle. I have never tried it but since I have them, I figured I would test the consistence of the gear with it. So now I know that I can use the 27gax1/2" in the delts, traps, tris, bis, quads, and chest with ease. I like the fact that I can use a 27ga. Makes me feel good! It flows out like using a
    20ga.

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  • warmouth
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    Originally posted by Dan C View Post
    I wonder how much that high concentration Trenbolone will hurt...
    I am going to try it tomorrow. I am not as concerned with the concentration as the dreaded EO! I do ok with EO after a few weeks, and the pain becomes a bit more bearable. I am going to pin 75mgs in the delt or tri, even though I have never pinned the tris. Maybe that's a bad place to assess the pain, so I will do delt. Here is what I forgot to mention that is important to me. This stuff is extremely thin. I filtered 35mls in 4-5 minutes using the caulk gun method. With GSO, this usually would take 30minutes - an hour, maybe more. So I drew up 1ml using a 27gax1/2" needle, and then reshot it back into the vial with a vent. With 1 quick plunge, the contents emptied as fast as I could press. Literally 2 seconds. EO is a great carrier, but it is also a harsh solvent, so be warned. A lot of people, including myself, have a good deal of pain with EO. It is nasty in the fact that is can eat away at the stoppers in the vials, the rubber in the syringes, etc. So I can only imagine what it is doing to muscle tissue. I am not a fan, however, it makes for some higher dosed gear, and thin as water. The majority of people claim it is pain free, but not for me. I will update this tomorrow and let you guys know what pain level I experience.

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  • Dan C
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    I wonder how much that high concentration Trenbolone will hurt...

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