So, guys, I have engaged in Intermittent Fasting.

[Mini-G]

LOL that's hilarious. I'm sure that slapped mother metabolism in the face

[Dan C]

Oh my god, I cheated so hard yesterday that words can't describe how I felt. First cheat meal on intermittent fasting. Went the typical 18 hour fasting period, and that ONE cheat meal was my whole meal for the day pretty much. It must have been 5,000 calories in one sitting at an all you can eat sushi place. Extreme bloating, visible "food baby" stomach protrusion lol. The good thing about IF is that your cheat meal usually is all your calories for the day (as opposed to the 6 meals per day routine where you eat one cheat meal on top of your other 5 meals, resulting in even higher caloric intake). It feels like cheat meals don't set you back as much when you do it in an IF setting.

But from now on, no more all you can eat places for cheat meals. End up binging so much that you almost explode and bloat so much you could roll out of the restaurant...

[Mini-G]

Subbed. Very interested in this type of diet.

Says poptart man

[Bull]

Subbed. Very interested in this type of diet.

[Mini-G]

Ill have a weight and bf% update tomorrow on my thread!!

[Mini-G]

Very nice dude.

[Dan C]

Well, well... it's been 1 day shy of a full week on intermittent fasting.

Last Thursday April 18, 2013:
Weight: 198.4 lbs.
13.8% bodyfat (handheld monitor)

Today, Thursday April 25, 2013:
Weight: 193.8
12.1% bodyfat (handheld monitor)

Those numbers don't lie, and I can visibly see it too. Every single day that passes by, I see small amounts of fat loss. 4.6 lbs. and 1.7% loss in body fat after 1 week of IF... that's pretty impressive.

[OdinsOtherSon]

I am DEFINITELY seeing results quickly on IF!!! For one thing, my midsection is visibly becoming tighter in small amounts each day, I am FAR less bloated (visibly as well as how I feel) compared to the standard 6 meals per day protocol. I am really enjoying training in a fasted state with BCAAs pre-workout due to the less bloated feeling as well. I honestly think I might not go back to 6 meals a day unless i'm bulking and the caloric intake is so high that I can't jam it into 3 meals. I just trained legs and found ZERO problems with energy, ZERO issues with blood glucose levels, ZERO issues with strength loss (strength went up, in fact).

I just ate my post-workout meal after training legs. The meal was just MASSIVE, and IF really seems to be boosting the metabolism because I feel hot as hell right now! My body is burning up! There is a significant body temperature increase right now compared to before I started eating, holy jeez! Can't wait to do my weigh-in and bodyfat check. 2 days to go until then.

These have been my observations whilst practicing IF as well. One lesson I've learned, and continue to learn, regarding this lifestyle (and IF is a lifestyle....not a diet) one had better stay on track when you DO eat, and keep, have and eat the RIGHT stuff. Veering off track just a little, at least in my experience, can lead to disastrous consequences in food choices. Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance. However, I'm a huge fan of IF. The whole "catabolism after a couple hours of not eating" philosophy needs to go the way of the dinosaurs.

[Dan C]

I am DEFINITELY seeing results quickly on IF!!! For one thing, my midsection is visibly becoming tighter in small amounts each day, I am FAR less bloated (visibly as well as how I feel) compared to the standard 6 meals per day protocol. I am really enjoying training in a fasted state with BCAAs pre-workout due to the less bloated feeling as well. I honestly think I might not go back to 6 meals a day unless i'm bulking and the caloric intake is so high that I can't jam it into 3 meals. I just trained legs and found ZERO problems with energy, ZERO issues with blood glucose levels, ZERO issues with strength loss (strength went up, in fact).

I just ate my post-workout meal after training legs. The meal was just MASSIVE, and IF really seems to be boosting the metabolism because I feel hot as hell right now! My body is burning up! There is a significant body temperature increase right now compared to before I started eating, holy jeez! Can't wait to do my weigh-in and bodyfat check. 2 days to go until then.

[Dan C]

thanks for the info dan. pretty much what i had suspected, just wanted your opinion. i may start to run caber on a low dose weekly, just cuz of what they say about the erections and sex drive, etc. ive never had to run the prami (or any other prolactin antagonist for that matter).

im glad your having good results on the diet man. it no doubt works for shedding fat. even with lower t! lol be sure to let us know the readings!

r u still having good energy levels throughout ur workouts?

what kind of macro split r u running?

Energy levels haven't been a problem during fasted workouts so far. The BCAAs seemed to really help. Tomorrow i'll be hitting legs, so we'll see how that goes.

I don't really try to intentionally partition my macros up, but when I cut and drop into a caloric deficit, I will reduce protein down to no less than 1g per lb. of body weight. Once that's been reduced and I can reduce it no further, I will cut carbs down which can be manipulated much easier than protein or fats. So, wherever the macros land after that is where they will land. But at the moment, looking at my current laid out diet, my macros seem to be:

Protein: 42%
Carbohydrates: 20%
Fats: 30%

I know there is like 10% left over that isn't attributed to anything, but these are rough estimates based on my Microsoft excel sheet that I have my diet laid out in, and there are a lot of decimal values that I just rounded off. But either way, that's what it looks like at the moment (roughly) in my deficit.

[warmouth]

Great stuff dan. Following for sure.

Tron, just use the caber for goodness sakes! You will be glad you did! Prami has the same effect for some so you could like it better. However, 1 dose of prami for me and I was sick as a dog. Some prefer it to caber.

[TroN]

thanks for the info dan. pretty much what i had suspected, just wanted your opinion. i may start to run caber on a low dose weekly, just cuz of what they say about the erections and sex drive, etc. ive never had to run the prami (or any other prolactin antagonist for that matter).

im glad your having good results on the diet man. it no doubt works for shedding fat. even with lower t! lol be sure to let us know the readings!

r u still having good energy levels throughout ur workouts?

what kind of macro split r u running?

[Dan C]

You can always do the "keep it on hand and use it only if issues arise" protocol. The truth is that Prolactin should not be raised to significant levels with 5-HTP, and in the average person it will go up but it can and might rise to significant enough levels to cause issues in some. If that happens, you can always start on the Prolactin antagonist to get it under control. No big deal.

I also want to report that my 4th day of IF today is going very well and either I am starting to get noticeably leaner in just 4 days and/or I am noticing that intermittent fasting is dropping water from my body and making me look less bloated than the typical 6 meals per day protocol. I am REALLY liking this so far and i'm curious to see what my bodyfat % reading will be on Thursday this week (I measure body fat, weight, etc. on Thursday of every week).

[TroN]

Some form of Prolactin control such as Cabergoline, Pramipexole, Bromocriptine, etc. Should be used whenever using any 19-nor compounds such as Nandrolone or Trenbolone. If you're using 5-HTP which is an excellent supplement in and of itself, then the Prolactin issue is already solved!

I've never had any issues with prolactin before with just 19nors, I keep some prami on hand (but thinking about switching to steady dose of caber if I can find it), but was wondering if I should just go ahead and take it if using both. Wasn't sure how much the 5-htp effected prolactin. I couldn't did any values.

[Admin]

Will follow this...