First tren cycle

[BigZ]

What's up everyone? It's time to try tren! Ive been wanting to run it for a long time and never got around to it. Right now I'm thinking test p and tren a. I'm not opposed to tren e, but I'd prefer the shorter ester incase I need to come off of it. What are yalls opinions for a good starting point? I was thinking 100mgs of test eod and 50mgs of tren eod. I'm open to any suggestions.

[Train]

Go with tren E and 50 I doubt will do much . I started with 50 and 100 was the sweet spot . I had no bad sides , did increase vascularity , strength , size and cut .

[BEAR]

Stick with the Acetate. You're right on track with your thought process.....your body may have adverse reaction to carrier oil, or any part of the chemical composition of the Tren, you can rid your body of it within 72 hours. Where as if you use the Enanthate ester, you're stuck with the side effects & whatever damage they may cause to your body for about 10 +/- days.

As for your doses, when it comes to Tren. 200 mg/wk is a good idea, just to see how you react to it, you will notice some change in your physique at that dose, however, that dose is likely to disappoint when it comes to the notable gains that Tren. is capable of. I would run 400 mg/wk & keep your Test. dose at TRT level (about 150 mg/wk) This will allow the Tren. to dominate the receptor field rather that jockey for position against the flood of testosterone. It will also allow the Tren. to be the workhorse so you can really see what this stuff is capable of. This is a new method I've learned / adopted over the last year or so, & I've been very impressed with the results.

What A.I. are you using?

What does your P.C.T. look like?

What made you decide on short ester Test?

[Cv808]

Im in the same boat I wanna run a test e and tren ace cycle and trying to find a good dose I Just got off a dbol cycle for 6 weeks and with the right diet and hard work I got pretty good results I went from 158lbs to 176lbs blood pressure went up a bit but now I'm ready for a real cycle someone help Paz

[BEAR]

Welcome to the forum Cv808, we're glad to have you, & more than happy to help. But please start your own thread rather than hijacking BigZ's

P.S. Based just on what I've read in your first post....you are NOT ready for a Tren. cycle. There's much more to cycling AAS than you appear to know. Start a thread, post your stats, cycle history & diet, & we will gladly set you on the right path.

[BigZ]

I normally use arimidex as my ai. I'll run both nolva and clomid for my pct. I haven't made up my mind on the dosing for pct yet. I'll probably dose it a little higher then a single compound cycle. What would you reccommend? The first cycle I ran was test p and it went great! I guess I'm just an all around fan of the short esters. What are thought on tapering tren? Start at 200mg a week and work up to 400.

[warmouth]

Stick with the Acetate. You're right on track with your thought process.....your body may have adverse reaction to carrier oil, or any part of the chemical composition of the Tren, you can rid your body of it within 72 hours. Where as if you use the Enanthate ester, you're stuck with the side effects & whatever damage they may cause to your body for about 10 +/- days.

As for your doses, when it comes to Tren. 200 mg/wk is a good idea, just to see how you react to it, you will notice some change in your physique at that dose, however, that dose is likely to disappoint when it comes to the notable gains that Tren. is capable of. I would run 400 mg/wk & keep your Test. dose at TRT level (about 150 mg/wk) This will allow the Tren. to dominate the receptor field rather that jockey for position against the flood of testosterone. It will also allow the Tren. to be the workhorse so you can really see what this stuff is capable of. This is a new method I've learned / adopted over the last year or so, & I've been very impressed with the results.

What A.I. are you using?

What does your P.C.T. look like?

What made you decide on short ester Test?

Spot on!

[warmouth]

I just saw who posted this. This is your first tren run BigZ?!

[BEAR]

I normally use arimidex as my ai. I'll run both nolva and clomid for my pct. I haven't made up my mind on the dosing for pct yet. I'll probably dose it a little higher then a single compound cycle. What would you reccommend? The first cycle I ran was test p and it went great! I guess I'm just an all around fan of the short esters. What are thought on tapering tren? Start at 200mg a week and work up to 400.

I don't see any harm in tapering up to 400, but I think by the end if the cycle you will wish you had run the 400 mg/wk for the whole cycle. But I understand & commend the caution.

I think you will be better off with Aromasin rather than Arimidex. Stane is far more effective at reducing estrogen levels.

8 - 12 mg/ed is common & effective.

PCT should look like something like this:
Nolva. 60/40/40/20/20
I will have to let someone else advise your Clomid use, as I have never used it & will not advise anyone on a drug I have only literary knowledge of.

[BigZ]

I just saw who posted this. This is your first tren run BigZ?!

Yeah dude!! I've been wanting to do it for so long now. Time to dive in!

[BigZ]

I don't see any harm in tapering up to 400, but I think by the end if the cycle you will wish you had run the 400 mg/wk for the whole cycle. But I understand & commend the caution.

I think you will be better off with Aromasin rather than Arimidex. Stane is far more effective at reducing estrogen levels.

8 - 12 mg/ed is common & effective.

PCT should look like something like this:
Nolva. 60/40/40/20/20
I will have to let someone else advise your Clomid use, as I have never used it & will not advise anyone on a drug I have only literary knowledge of.

I might as well go 400mg/wk from the start. If it proves to be too much, I can always cut it out. I've been wanting to try stane. I've done some reading on it and wouldn't mind seeing how it works with my body. That's pretty close to what I had in mind for nolva. Do you normally run 1 pct chem? I've come off of 1 cycle with using only nolva once. I had no issues. All the others I used both nolva and clomid.

[BigZ]

Do y'all keep caber on hand at all? That's a new chem to me. I've only done a little research on it. I plan on studying up on it soon.

[warmouth]

I always have prami on hand, and I sometimes use it off cycle for other purposes. Caber isn't cheap, and when bought in liquid form, it loses efficiency very quickly. Caps and tablets are the only way to go for caber, but liquid prami is good to go. Prami works so much better for me, and Dan has some good reasons why. It can cause nausea for some, but it isn't super common. I don't know of anyone personally that it makes sick, and I know alot of people that use it. I've heard Admin say it causes nausea for him.

[BEAR]

Good call Warmouth. I completely overlooked the prolactin element here.

But be careful with Prami. BigZ, it can lower your blood pressure to VERY dangerous level. I myself had a pretty scary episode with it a couple years ago.


I've always had good success with Nolva. only PCT.

[BigZ]

Thanks for the input. I'll do some reading up on prami this evening.