What cycle are you on now?

[Snowblowjoe]

I know you have seen my 3rd cycle. I cut out the hair loss supps. I have no idea if what I'm getting is oral Tbol though so I'm going to discontinue it. currently on day 13 of my 10 week cycle. Im what to take to run oxymetholone for 18 days at 80 milligrams a day. run var for 80 milligrams a day ed for the last 4 weeks of my cycle. and I want to lower my test prop To 300 milligrams every week dead dead run tren ace for 600 milligrams every weekfrom: week four or five 2 week eight or nine

[warmouth]

There are other issues regarding health when staying on high doses for long periods of time and I think the CNS needs a break occasionly.

There it is! Nicely said. I knew there was a reason for a deload other than receptor burnout.

[TroN]

There are other issues regarding health when staying on high doses for long periods of time and I think the CNS needs a break occasionly.

Not just the CNS, the body as a whole. Or at least mine. After the increased aggression in the gym and knowing I'm on high doses of gear, I beat my body to ever living hell. By the end of 8 weeks, I needs a couple weeks recovery.

[Link]

Bear and Link, this is what I thought. I hear so much that receptors become saturated and gains will eventually diminish. I figured there had to be somewhat of a slowdown but I didnt see how gains could stop. Seemed like a legit question since the "burnout" theory is so often preached. I guess Ill just never come off!

There are other issues regarding health when staying on high doses for long periods of time and I think the CNS needs a break occasionly.

[TroN]

150mg test e steady

875mg test p
525mg npp
Just started this blast this Sunday.

[warmouth]

Bear and Link, this is what I thought. I hear so much that receptors become saturated and gains will eventually diminish. I figured there had to be somewhat of a slowdown but I didnt see how gains could stop. Seemed like a legit question since the "burnout" theory is so often preached. I guess Ill just never come off!

[Link]

So, do you guys nelieve in receptor burnout or not? Many people believe that AAS's become ineffective (or risk toreward is pointless because gains slowly diminish) if do yall believe that the compounds will continue to be productive for long durations? I can see how deloading makes since, but seems 2 weeks is narely enough to let the compounds clear(for long esters). Seems if burnout existed, a much longer deload, or just come off would make more sense.

No..the body is regenerating new receptors all the time and in fact it dose so at a higher rate while on AAS...pure myth!

[BEAR]

So, do you guys nelieve in receptor burnout or not? Many people believe that AAS's become ineffective (or risk toreward is pointless because gains slowly diminish) if do yall believe that the compounds will continue to be productive for long durations? I can see how deloading makes since, but seems 2 weeks is narely enough to let the compounds clear(for long esters). Seems if burnout existed, a much longer deload, or just come off would make more sense.

I was on a blast & cruise for over a year & saw nothing but gain gain GAIN>>>>>>!!!!!!

[warmouth]

So, do you guys nelieve in receptor burnout or not? Many people believe that AAS's become ineffective (or risk toreward is pointless because gains slowly diminish) if do yall believe that the compounds will continue to be productive for long durations? I can see how deloading makes since, but seems 2 weeks is narely enough to let the compounds clear(for long esters). Seems if burnout existed, a much longer deload, or just come off would make more sense.

[Admin]

To answer my own question... HRT 250mg every 10 days.

[Link]

In my experience and from looking at clinical data, SHBG is not of a concern in the vast majority of users. SHBG actually went down in a tapered fashion when exogenous testosterone was administered to patients. Unless BW confirms its an issue, I wouldn't be worrying about it. Free T is often so high it doesnt matter IMO.

I agree..once BB doses of test are used SHGB does not really become an issue. The biiger question is...if the larger doses are providing any truelly added benifit to someone well under genetic limits...I say no!

[kubes]

Gotcha it's ugl

[Admin]

What does make mean? I kind if thought that question might be coming lol

UGL or pharm?

[Admin]

So in order to get the most from high test, what compounds do you recommend to run with it(SHBG imhibitors, what are some examples)?

In my experience and from looking at clinical data, SHBG is not of a concern in the vast majority of users. SHBG actually went down in a tapered fashion when exogenous testosterone was administered to patients. Unless BW confirms its an issue, I wouldn't be worrying about it. Free T is often so high it doesnt matter IMO.

[Link]

So in order to get the most from high test, what compounds do you recommend to run with it(SHBG imhibitors, what are some examples)?

Mast....