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We need to nail a few facts down here to ease my mind, as well as the vast majority of us, as I know most of us want to try Primo. I have read our profile on it so many times, and it is one of the only AAS that I feel I will ever want to use once I try it. I hear nothing but good about it, and the only negative I hear is from people who haven't ran it long enough or high enough. I feel that 750-1000mgs for men is about par for the course, but if it is accurately dosed, 500mgs could have a decent effect. I have been researching this compound so much that I really want to give it a go. Of course the price is the only downside (other than literally being a pin cushion).
I just found a write up on it in a thread that sort of blew me away. Basically said that it is about the only injectable AAS that will add permanent mass, even while on a caloric deficit. I can post it if it is allowed. Anyways, it said it takes a long time for the effects to start to show, but when they do, the gains are some of the most impressive of them all. Apparently it even takes longer than deca to start to show up. It also doesn't have any negative sides on BP, nor is lipids a major concern. Many people who can afford it will run it indefinitely, for months on end.
Some of the questions that I have are simple, but views differ from person to person. I truly feel that 750-1000+ is appropriate for men, while up to 100mgs is ideal for a woman. Some say as little as 500mgs is fine, but the vast majority says anything less that 750 is a waste. So whats true? I want to brew it at 200mgs/ml, but from what I gather, even though it can be done, Primobolan is an irritant and if dosed that high can leave some serious pain and possible crashing in the muscle itself. No doubt I can get it to hold that high, but I am unsure of the pain involved. It would make dosing it so much easier, especially if ran for 16+weeks, and I want to run it for 20+, and even up to 24 weeks. I just don't want to pin ED or EOD for that long by any means. SO if anyone has a pain free 200mg/ml recipe, please PM it my way! Lol. Serious.
And for now, the last thing I will bring up is what I might consider at the front end to wait out the "kick in" for the primo. My intentions have been all year to use a test/deca cycle through the winter at 1000/1000mgs, no less than 750/750. Now after really wanting to try the primo, I am starting to wonder and want some more ideas. Ive thought about keeping testosterone pretty high (750-1000mgs) and use NPP for the first 6 weeks, then hope that the primo kicks in by then. And yes, I am using this as a "bulking" cycle, and yes, using primo! Primo and deca are very similar in what they do, but the end result with primo is not even comparable. 0 bloat and no prolactin or estrogen sides. And if I did use primo, Id lower the test about 10-12 weeks in to a trt dose and finish the primo cycle with some mast/var and a low tren dose.
Primobolan is just a very exciting compound that really has me fired up. I couldn't imagine how well a primo/mast/tren/var cycle would be for someone who is already lean, yet has a decent amount of mass. I recommend everyone here read the profiles that Dan C has written on these compounds. Amazing stuff and the effort put into them should not be ignored. Think about this weekly cycle:
Testosterone @100mgs/Primo @ 1000mgs/Tren @ 300mgs/Mast @ 500mgs/Var @ 700mgs/T3 @ 100mcgs ED!
I know that is a lot of compounds at one time. And I also understand this is in no way a cycle any beginner should even consider. But for someone who charts and documents their daily intake of supps and nutrients, and has a firm grasp on what each of these compounds are intended for and the side effects to watch for, this would be insane! A cycle like this should include BW throughout, as well as a prostate check towards the end. That is a lot of DHT and all safety precautions should be taken. This cycle may be too intense/extreme for even the most seasoned AAS user. Just dreaming over here, lol!
I just found a write up on it in a thread that sort of blew me away. Basically said that it is about the only injectable AAS that will add permanent mass, even while on a caloric deficit. I can post it if it is allowed. Anyways, it said it takes a long time for the effects to start to show, but when they do, the gains are some of the most impressive of them all. Apparently it even takes longer than deca to start to show up. It also doesn't have any negative sides on BP, nor is lipids a major concern. Many people who can afford it will run it indefinitely, for months on end.
Some of the questions that I have are simple, but views differ from person to person. I truly feel that 750-1000+ is appropriate for men, while up to 100mgs is ideal for a woman. Some say as little as 500mgs is fine, but the vast majority says anything less that 750 is a waste. So whats true? I want to brew it at 200mgs/ml, but from what I gather, even though it can be done, Primobolan is an irritant and if dosed that high can leave some serious pain and possible crashing in the muscle itself. No doubt I can get it to hold that high, but I am unsure of the pain involved. It would make dosing it so much easier, especially if ran for 16+weeks, and I want to run it for 20+, and even up to 24 weeks. I just don't want to pin ED or EOD for that long by any means. SO if anyone has a pain free 200mg/ml recipe, please PM it my way! Lol. Serious.
And for now, the last thing I will bring up is what I might consider at the front end to wait out the "kick in" for the primo. My intentions have been all year to use a test/deca cycle through the winter at 1000/1000mgs, no less than 750/750. Now after really wanting to try the primo, I am starting to wonder and want some more ideas. Ive thought about keeping testosterone pretty high (750-1000mgs) and use NPP for the first 6 weeks, then hope that the primo kicks in by then. And yes, I am using this as a "bulking" cycle, and yes, using primo! Primo and deca are very similar in what they do, but the end result with primo is not even comparable. 0 bloat and no prolactin or estrogen sides. And if I did use primo, Id lower the test about 10-12 weeks in to a trt dose and finish the primo cycle with some mast/var and a low tren dose.
Primobolan is just a very exciting compound that really has me fired up. I couldn't imagine how well a primo/mast/tren/var cycle would be for someone who is already lean, yet has a decent amount of mass. I recommend everyone here read the profiles that Dan C has written on these compounds. Amazing stuff and the effort put into them should not be ignored. Think about this weekly cycle:
Testosterone @100mgs/Primo @ 1000mgs/Tren @ 300mgs/Mast @ 500mgs/Var @ 700mgs/T3 @ 100mcgs ED!
I know that is a lot of compounds at one time. And I also understand this is in no way a cycle any beginner should even consider. But for someone who charts and documents their daily intake of supps and nutrients, and has a firm grasp on what each of these compounds are intended for and the side effects to watch for, this would be insane! A cycle like this should include BW throughout, as well as a prostate check towards the end. That is a lot of DHT and all safety precautions should be taken. This cycle may be too intense/extreme for even the most seasoned AAS user. Just dreaming over here, lol!
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