New to this.

[Toon82]

I've been working out a lot but I'm not c ing the results that I want to c. I want to start a cycle but don't know which one to choose r how much I should take.

[Dan C]

I've been working out a lot but I'm not c ing the results that I want to c. I want to start a cycle but don't know which one to choose r how much I should take.

If you are working out and are not seeing the results you want, the first thing you need to do is re-assess your nutrition and training, not jump to the conclusion that you need anabolic steroids. The biggest mistake you can make is to think that you won't get results without anabolic steroids, and/or that the only thing wrong is that you need anabolic steroids. With your current dilemma, the inclusion of anabolic steroids will do the following for you: absolutely nothing. At best, you will end up adding a small amount of muscle that you could have achieved naturally, but without the supporting nutrition and training protocol, the muscle will be quickly lost after you end your cycle.

Anabolic steroids to not create muscle out of thin air. Anabolic steroids do not create anything, they only serve to ENHANCE what you have already been doing. If you've been putting on muscle naturally, then anabolic steroids should enhance that by a greater deal. But what will determine your results is proper training, proper rest, and proper diet. Anabolic steroids are a force multiplier. That is to say that they only serve to multiply the results and effort that you have already been achieving.

Ask yourself this: what is 5 x 5? The answer is 25, of course. Lets say anabolic steroids multiply whatever you have been doing by 5 (meaning, they will enhance your results thus far by a factor of 5). The effort you have been putting in NATURALLY WITHOUT ANABOLIC STEROIDS has been granting you a result measurement of 2. You add anabolic steroids into the picture, and now you have what? 2 x 5 = 10. Anabolic steroids have force multiplied your efforts and brought you a result of 10.

Now ask yourself this: what is 0 x 5? ZERO! If you have been getting zero results and you throw anabolic steroids into the play, you will receive zero results.

To further assist your understanding, anabolic steroids are like the equivalent of workers on a construction site trying to build a big building (i.e. the muscle). You can recruit 50 million workers (i.e. injecting or ingesting anabolic steroids) to work at that worksite in order to build that house bigger and faster. But let me ask you this: how are these workers going to get anything done if you don't supply them with the appropriate construction supplies and tools necessary to do the job (i.e. nutrition)? How are they going to build anything without the appropriate supplies OR without proper direction/instruction (i.e. training)? The answer is: nothing gets built.

Please tell us your age, height, weight, current diet and current training routine (as well as how long you have been training for total) for us to better advise you. I assure you, the last thing you need at the moment are anabolic steroids. Better yet, you will receive better advice in the diet and training sections of this forum. But lets start with this.

Welcome to Steroidal.com, by the way. This is the best place for your questions to be answered, you'll get 100% honest advice.

[Toon82]

I have muscle. I'm just not getting as big as I want to be. That is y I am asking about steroids. I am 5 ft 9 170 lbs. I want to b around 190-200lbs.

[Toon82]

R what do u think about hgh? I take factor 2 by force factor and xt180 and I take glutamine. And of course muscle and weight gainer shakes for after my workout

[Dan C]

Post what you ate yesterday. What does your training routine look like?

As a guideline minimum, you should at least always try to reach 200 lbs. at no greater than 13% bodyfat naturally before starting anabolic steroids.

[Admin]

Post what you ate yesterday. What does your training routine look like?

As a guideline minimum, you should at least always try to reach 200 lbs. at no greater than 13% bodyfat naturally before starting anabolic steroids.

Agreed.

Lets look at your diet and supplement regime first, once thats tweaked we can suggest a solid cycle for you. This way you will gain the most mass if bulking is your objective.

[Toon82]

I workout at 6 n the morn and I drink my shake after I workout but for lunch I ate a roast beef and ham wrap and dinner I ate chicken Alfredo. My workouts I changed it a couple weeks ago and I c more progress since I've changed it. Monday I do arms and chest. Tuesday I do back shoulders and traps. Wednesday I do legs. Thursday I start over again with arms and chest then Friday I switch it up to legs. Sat I do back shoulders and traps. Sunday off. I do abs and cardio every day

[warmouth]

I workout at 6 n the morn and I drink my shake after I workout but for lunch I ate a roast beef and ham wrap and dinner I ate chicken Alfredo. My workouts I changed it a couple weeks ago and I c more progress since I've changed it. Monday I do arms and chest. Tuesday I do back shoulders and traps. Wednesday I do legs. Thursday I start over again with arms and chest then Friday I switch it up to legs. Sat I do back shoulders and traps. Sunday off. I do abs and cardio every day

There is absolutely nothing I can say that Dan hasn't covered (and his post should be a reference or sticky). But what I can add to, is based on your training split, it looks a bit random and "upper body" focused. To add mass or weight in general, legs should always be a top priority. Most all muscle mass resides in the legs and building them up is the most efficient way to add weight. Try legs 2x a week, then work 1 bodypart a day once a week.

[Dan C]

I workout at 6 n the morn and I drink my shake after I workout but for lunch I ate a roast beef and ham wrap and dinner I ate chicken Alfredo. My workouts I changed it a couple weeks ago and I c more progress since I've changed it. Monday I do arms and chest. Tuesday I do back shoulders and traps. Wednesday I do legs. Thursday I start over again with arms and chest then Friday I switch it up to legs. Sat I do back shoulders and traps. Sunday off. I do abs and cardio every day

I'm going to be brutally honest with you here, and I will cover the faults that needs improvement in point form:

- Your diet consists of a protein shake for breakfast, a roast beef and ham wrap for lunch, and chicken alfredo for dinner. I am going to estimate that you are getting no more than approximately 60 - 100 grams of protein, 150 grams of carbohydrates, and no more than about 1,200 - 1,500 calories (and i'm being generous with that figure) in your body in one day. You carbohydrates of choice are also not the cleanest. Without even knowing your stats, I can tell that this is nowhere near the requirements for you to effectively provide the nutrients required for your body to build muscle. You need to aim at making protein a priority with each meal, and increasing your overall calories to about 2,500 - 3,000 calories a day with at LEAST 1 gram of protein per lb. of body weight. Whether you get these nutrients into you in 6 meals throughout the day or 3 doesn't matter as long as you're getting them into you once every 24 hour period. Diet is key, and this is the most common reason as to why people don't see the results they're looking for.

- Without any details on your training methods, sets, and rep schemes, I can tell your training even from the routine outline needs improvement. Too much emphasis on upper body, and you are training body parts too frequently. Training muscles too frequently breaks down and damages muscle tissue too soon before the body can repair it, let alone grow new muscle on top of that. The result is very little to no gains. You should train each muscle group in a very high intensity manner with challenging weight and relatively low volume once every 7 days to begin with, and go from there. If you find you can recover quicker than others, you can decide to train the smaller muscle groups twice weekly. Larger muscle groups need more rest. But most people and the average individual require about 7 days of rest for each muscle between workouts to allow for adequate repair of damage AND to allow the new muscle growth on top of that.

- Do not train abdominals every day. Your abdominals are made up of the same muscle tissue just as every other major muscle in the body. Therefore, train them hard, intense, and only once weekly. Maximum twice weekly. Once again, the average recovery time for the average individual applies here.

- Cardio is okay, but you might want to cut it down a little bit (depending on what type of cardio and how long you are doing it for), as every day can be excessive if trying to gain mass.

[Toon82]

I'm going to be brutally honest with you here, and I will cover the faults that needs improvement in point form:

- Your diet consists of a protein shake for breakfast, a roast beef and ham wrap for lunch, and chicken alfredo for dinner. I am going to estimate that you are getting no more than approximately 60 - 100 grams of protein, 150 grams of carbohydrates, and no more than about 1,200 - 1,500 calories (and i'm being generous with that figure) in your body in one day. You carbohydrates of choice are also not the cleanest. Without even knowing your stats, I can tell that this is nowhere near the requirements for you to effectively provide the nutrients required for your body to build muscle. You need to aim at making protein a priority with each meal, and increasing your overall calories to about 2,500 - 3,000 calories a day with at LEAST 1 gram of protein per lb. of body weight. Whether you get these nutrients into you in 6 meals throughout the day or 3 doesn't matter as long as you're getting them into you once every 24 hour period. Diet is key, and this is the most common reason as to why people don't see the results they're looking for.

- Without any details on your training methods, sets, and rep schemes, I can tell your training even from the routine outline needs improvement. Too much emphasis on upper body, and you are training body parts too frequently. Training muscles too frequently breaks down and damages muscle tissue too soon before the body can repair it, let alone grow new muscle on top of that. The result is very little to no gains. You should train each muscle group in a very high intensity manner with challenging weight and relatively low volume once every 7 days to begin with, and go from there. If you find you can recover quicker than others, you can decide to train the smaller muscle groups twice weekly. Larger muscle groups need more rest. But most people and the average individual require about 7 days of rest for each muscle between workouts to allow for adequate repair of damage AND to allow the new muscle growth on top of that.

- Do not train abdominals every day. Your abdominals are made up of the same muscle tissue just as every other major muscle in the body. Therefore, train them hard, intense, and only once weekly. Maximum twice weekly. Once again, the average recovery time for the average individual applies here.

- Cardio is okay, but you might want to cut it down a little bit (depending on what type of cardio and how long you are doing it for), as every day can be excessive if trying to gain mass.

Ok Dan. What do u think of this? Monday ill do chest. Tuesday legs. Wednesday biceps tries. Thursday back and shoulders. Friday legs. And Saturday just abs and cardio. Maybe abs on Monday also. And work on my nutrition. Does that sound better? R how do I need to switch it?

[Toon82]

I thought abs and calfs u can workout everyday if u wanted

[warmouth]

Looks a lot better toons. I wouldn't do shoulders and back on the same day due to the sheer effort of both. Work the shoulder in on the second leg day, and keep legs very light that day. For instance, do 3 sets of 3 exercises, then blow out shoulders. Here is my current schedule:
Mon- chest
Tue- legs
Wed- arms
Thurs- shoulders
Fri- back
Sat- off
Sun-off
Repeat.

Thats is just an idea. I also do leg extensions and curls on back day. Just 2 sets each. I do calves on mon, wed, fri and only do 1 heavy set to fail at anout 10 reps. Hope that helped.

[Toon82]

Looks a lot better toons. I wouldn't do shoulders and back on the same day due to the sheer effort of both. Work the shoulder in on the second leg day, and keep legs very light that day. For instance, do 3 sets of 3 exercises, then blow out shoulders. Here is my current schedule:
Mon- chest
Tue- legs
Wed- arms
Thurs- shoulders
Fri- back
Sat- off
Sun-off
Repeat.

Thats is just an idea. I also do leg extensions and curls on back day. Just 2 sets each. I do calves on mon, wed, fri and only do 1 heavy set to fail at anout 10 reps. Hope that helped.

Cool deal. Thanks warmouth. I appreciate the input. Will do. My chest workout this morning was awesome by the way just concentrating on one thing really helps. I feel the difference already

[Toon82]

One more thing warmouth. When do u do ur abs and cardio?

[Admin]

One more thing warmouth. When do u do ur abs and cardio?

Depends what your goals are really.

I used to hit abs 3-4x per week and cardio the same. 30-45mins slow/medium duration.