Back at it!!! Tren/Mast/Var Log

[warmouth]

Finally, after alot of patiently waiting to get back on the horse, I'm all set to start up next week (start date 1-20-14). This cycle is intended to add lean mass, while dropping a little body fat. I will be shooting for eating a calorie surplus of 200-300 per day. My current stats:

5'10"
180lbs
BF% 12
31 years old
Cycle experience is good. Being a TRT guy, I've tinkered with many compounds as trial and error and to see how it effects me. This will be my first attempt with masteron. My goal is to add 8-10 solid lbs of maintainable weight. I figure this is very attainable for a 10 week cycle (maybe a week or 2 more, lol).

Weeks 1-10
Trenbolone A @ 75mgs ED
Masteron P @ 75mgs ED
Testosterone C @ 50mgs weekly
Weeks 1-8
Anavar @ 100mgs ED

Ancillaries will be Prami from CEM dosed at .25mgs ED. Hcg 500iu 1x weekly (dosed with the test once a week).

Supplementation:
3 grams fish oil
2 grams flaxseed oil
200mgs CoQ10
400mgs vitamin E
1000mgs vitamin C
2000iu D3
5000mgs oral B12 daily (methyl)
100mgs pregnenolone(micronized)
50mgs DHEA (micronized)



I am hoping Dan can chime in on the masteron dose. I can't decide if I should bump the dose to 100mgs daily, but I'm pretty sure I'll be fine at what I am at. It is one of those compounds that everyone has a different opinion on. Since this is my first go with it, better to ask.

Now this is planned for 10 weeks, then I will go back to my TRT dose. Depending on BW, which I am sure will be rough, I might go 12, but there shouldn't be any real need to do so. I will be getting BW checked in one month, then one month after the cycle.

[Dan C]

Looks like a very solid cycle! Masteron dose is just fine, sometimes people go far too high on it. If you're really doing a good cut, the 'hardening' and '3D' effect that Masteron gives the physique becomes quite noticeable. It also acts as a mild AI, so that's a plus (and also one of the reasons it brings out the chiseled look). Also good idea on the low TRT dose for Testosterone. Let the other compounds do the work. You should have a lot of good lean mass rather than a lot of water bulk from a cycle like this.

[warmouth]

Thanks Dan! Im excited to give the masteron a try. Being as I have been lazy this winter, I dropped trying to "bulk" and got off the test very early. I am aiming for this to be somewhat a mass gaining cycle (to an extent) but losing some fat. My body fat is pretty low now and that is the reason for my inclusion of masteron. I think I can drop to 10, maybe 9% on this one. We shall see. A gym rat here locally feels I should increase the mast to 100mgs daily, but he isn't considering the negative effects it can have on lipids. Heck, along with the tren and anavar, I'm really going to have to keep my lipids in check anyways. If 525mgs a week of masteron isn't enough, then I need to consider a cheaper alternative, lol. I know it will be plenty. Between the tren/mast/var, the weekly doses are going to be 525/525/700, which is MORE than enough I'm sure. Im really excited here.

[OnTheSauce]

Tren really over powers var. Tren trashes my lipids so I try to keep its length down. So with those two things in mind, I would say do a 12 weeker. Run the var 6-8 weeks from the start and tren just last 6 weeks. Mast is awesome, big fan of it. 500-600 is ideal IMO. Should be a good cycle. If you have issues with pumps, supplement with some taurine. I remember last time being uncomfortable driving because my lower back was getting so pumped

[warmouth]

Thanks OTS. Really, I love anavar and the main reason for me using it is because I am covering the bases with the compounds I have decided. 19nor, dht, etc. And var gives me horrid pumps, so I will definitely have the taurine on hand. Thanks for that recommendation. Pretty excited, and most likely this will be extended to 12 weeks. If the progress slows dramatically before then, I'll consider coming off or upping the tren by 25mgs per day. Ill see on that one. This is the highest I've ran tren, but I do believe whole heartedly that daily administration will reduce the side effects by quite a bit. At least that's my theory and I will be able to test the waters and see. And I hope the var assists in making progress starting at week 1. Btw, I started the anavar yesterday, lol. Also, if anyone has any other suggestions, let me know because I am in no short supply of anything, at all. So if you guys think of a tweak here or there, chime in. I've pretty much got all compounds imaginable (that's worth anything) readily available.

EDIT- I will be pinning delts, glutes, quads, tris.

[OnTheSauce]

I don't get bad sides except for destroyed lipids from tren. Sleep great. But as I said, the tren will overpower the var and I feel like its a waste to use together. Wait a while before throwing the tren in. It's so bad internally anyway, I don't like using it more than 6-8 weeks

[warmouth]

Thats actually not a bad idea. I thought of starting var 2 weeks before to aid in fat loss, and quick results. Problem was is that my body fat is really low anyways. Heck man, I dont know. Ill probably just keep it together just because I've been off for so long and have patiently waited to start this up. I do know that with anavar, I like to take the full dose at once rather than break it up. I prefer about 2 hours pre workout just for a mental edge.

[OnTheSauce]

I take it all at once too.

[Admin]

Where is your Var from?

[OnTheSauce]

Whoa. No phishing for sources. Gosh

[Admin]

Whoa. No phishing for sources. Gosh

I meant which UGL or pharmaceutical grade?

[BEAR]

Happy to see you gettin the train back on track & in motion again brother......

And I agree with keeping the Mast low dose, I got excellent results at only 300 mg/wk.

[warmouth]

Happy to see you gettin the train back on track & in motion again brother......
And I agree with keeping the Mast low dose, I got excellent results at only 300 mg/wk.

Your the reason im confident with using 525mgs weekly. I was wonderling when youd come out on the prowl....gggrrrrrr! It really does feel amazing to be back on track. Ive put it off for so long getting lazy over the holidays that it was just hard to get back. I realized today that I am much weaker than before, like a novice. Incline dbbenchpress git up to 50s, then I failed after 5. Thats no bueno.
Btw, my anavar is from Georgia boys kitchen labs. All homebrew and as pretty as a peach! I'd put this tren up against anyone's. It is beautiful in colour. Thin as water. Tren is dosed at 150mgs/MLK amd the mast is at 150mg/ml. There is a secret to using EO and keeping the oil thin with no pain, yet brewing the compounds on the high side.

[warmouth]

Whoa! So I started the week with chest day. That was monday. Ive been so sore I havent been able to lift anything. I need help putting a jacket on. Going to do legs tommorrow, then shoulders on friday. Then next monday, I'll go to my regularly planned schedule of monday thru friday. This is tough. Im much weaker than I was.

[BEAR]

Keep your head up Champ, pretty soon you'll be shattering your old records...