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    Got my blood restults CBC and CMP normal
    -was on trt for a year after not recovering from a Tren cycle
    23 years old
    5'11, 190 10%body fat
    -ran 2 power pcts since coming off trt, it's been 1 year since my last pin.

    My SHBG is normally 19, but since taking SERMS it's been drastically elevated eating up all my free T.
    Been 9 weeks since last Torem/Clomid dose and it still hasn't fallen.

    TSH 1.18 (.4-4.5)
    T3 Free 3.8 (2.3-4.2)
    Thyroid Peroxidase Antibodies 2 (<9)
    IGF 1 180(83-460) Z score (male) -.3(-2-2)
    DHT 39 (16-79)
    T3 Reverse 18 (8-25)
    Iron Total 85 (50-195)
    Iron Binding Capacity 286 (250-425)
    % saturation 30 (15-60%)
    Ferritin 64 (20-345)


    Cortisol taken at 8:30 AM 13.5 (4-22)
    DHEA Sulfate 181 (85-690)
    FSH 6.0 (1.6-8.0)
    LH 2.6 (1.5-9.3)
    Prolactin 7.4 (2-18)


    SHBG 57 H (10-50)


    Total T 440 (250-100)
    Free T 45.4 (35-155)
    Estradiol Ultrasensitive 16 (<29)
    Vitamin D, 25-OH 40 (30-100)


    So I guess I'll start supplementing Vitamin D3 and DHEA micro, and possibly nettle root. I wish my darn SHBG would come down i don't understand why it's elevated, it has never come down since any PCT I have done after it's elevated from SERMS.
    Anywho thoughts on bloods>?

  • #2
    What exactly is "power PCT"?

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    • #3
      How soon did you start trt after your tren cycle you didn't recover from? Along with D3 and DHEA, ad micronized pregnenolone to your regime to create a more natural hormone balance. What is your total testosterone now you're on trt?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Admin View Post
        What exactly is "power PCT"?
        well the version I ran for my first PCT coming off TRT was
        1500iu HCG EoD for 10 shots
        accompanied by 1.25mg letro

        then clomid 70/70/35/35
        nolva 30/30/30/30/30/30

        A little tweaked because of what I had.
        I have seen a doctor and he himself seemed pretty knowledagble as he is on TRT himself. He told me to supplement D3 and Dhea along with a few other things and see if it comes down.

        I know SERMS tend to elevated SHBG and I've read it can take 2-4 months to drop after last SERM dose.

        Right now I have a lot of low estrogen symptoms, but I have been sick this last week so it's hard to judge.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by warmouth View Post
          How soon did you start trt after your tren cycle you didn't recover from? Along with D3 and DHEA, ad micronized pregnenolone to your regime to create a more natural hormone balance. What is your total testosterone now you're on trt?
          Thank you, yes I am planning on adding micronized DHEA(25mg) and Preg (50mg) as well as 5000iu Vitamind D3, high quality ZMA as well as nettle root and seeing if my SHBG drops now that SERMS are discontinued combined with these supps.

          I am not on TRT, I have been off for 1 year a 2 weeks.
          I Took the Power PCT and waited 3 months after it was done, so about 5 months since I finished the last pin of Tren to get on TRT, believe me I wanted to avoid it. But I ran two cycles back to back and the second one being Tren without HCG so I definitely needed more time and another PCT to recover at least. Was dumb and young, still am!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by jomamma007 View Post
            well the version I ran for my first PCT coming off TRT was
            1500iu HCG EoD for 10 shots
            accompanied by 1.25mg letro

            then clomid 70/70/35/35
            nolva 30/30/30/30/30/30

            A little tweaked because of what I had.
            I have seen a doctor and he himself seemed pretty knowledagble as he is on TRT himself. He told me to supplement D3 and Dhea along with a few other things and see if it comes down.

            I know SERMS tend to elevated SHBG and I've read it can take 2-4 months to drop after last SERM dose.

            Right now I have a lot of low estrogen symptoms, but I have been sick this last week so it's hard to judge.
            I'd get on Aromasin 12.5mg/ED, Tribulus Sopharma 1g/ED, LJ100 300mg/ED, Fenugreek RE 400mg/ED, Humofort 200-400mg/ED, zinc/magnesium, Omega-3 4-5g/ED, DHEA 25mg twice per day, pregnenolone, 10mg Melatonin before bed.

            Do that for 4-5 weeks and get BW done again.

            You might be able to manipulate total T here with an AI.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Admin View Post
              I'd get on Aromasin 12.5mg/ED, Tribulus Sopharma 1g/ED, LJ100 300mg/ED, Fenugreek RE 400mg/ED, Humofort 200-400mg/ED, zinc/magnesium, Omega-3 4-5g/ED, DHEA 25mg twice per day, pregnenolone, 10mg Melatonin before bed.

              Do that for 4-5 weeks and get BW done again.

              You might be able to manipulate total T here with an AI.
              Thnks for the response. My concern is the aromasin will drop my estrogen too low wont it? It's already fairly low at 16.

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              • #8
                Agree with Admin 100%! Follow those steps and do what you can to get normal. TRT isn't the end of the world, but I'd rather not have to rely on it if I could. however, if it is needed, there is nothing better. Good luck!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by warmouth View Post
                  Agree with Admin 100%! Follow those steps and do what you can to get normal. TRT isn't the end of the world, but I'd rather not have to rely on it if I could. however, if it is needed, there is nothing better. Good luck!
                  It's not that I don't want to be on TRT believe me. I was put on it when it was allowed in my combat sport. It was banned february 2014, and march 1st 2014 I was off it and doing my PCT.
                  My sport is more important to me then having super test levels, I just need to get my SHBG back down and get whatever edge I can.

                  I bought dhea, preg, d3, fish oil, and zma magnesium and some boron today. i'll try to get the rest. i already have the aromasin I just know it will crash my estro. but I'm willing to crash it if it brings down my SHBG and keeps it down once I stop use,.

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                  • #10
                    It wont cause your E to crash, 12.5mg/ED is a low dose, if you're concerned, try it and get bloods done again.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Admin View Post
                      It wont cause your E to crash, 12.5mg/ED is a low dose, if you're concerned, try it and get bloods done again.
                      okay I will get some in the next few days and run it for a month alongside the supps you suggested. Also do you think since there is no real reason for my SHBG to be this high( as it was never oringally this high, only elevated by SERMS), as my thyroid and estrogen as well as liver seem optimal by my bloods, that they are only elevated from the SERM use that this will knock SHBG down and keep it down?

                      Also I have a 30 day supply or aromasin which i started this morning based off your reccomendation at 12.5mg. I plan to take all the supps you reccomened for the next 4 weeks, then continue the others except aromasin for another 2 weeks and get bloods as testing blood on aromasin wont be accurate as it will skew my T and E levels correct? is 2 weeks after last aromasin dose enough time for my body to reach somewhat equilibrium?
                      Last edited by jomamma007; 03-19-2015, 05:49 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Well my numbers are improving and hopefully will continue
                        Total Test 495(348-1197)
                        Estradiol 20(7-42.6) a little low and I feel the low E symptoms
                        LH 3.5
                        FSH 4.6

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Admin View Post
                          I'd get on Aromasin 12.5mg/ED, Tribulus Sopharma 1g/ED, LJ100 300mg/ED, Fenugreek RE 400mg/ED, Humofort 200-400mg/ED, zinc/magnesium, Omega-3 4-5g/ED, DHEA 25mg twice per day, pregnenolone, 10mg Melatonin before bed.

                          Do that for 4-5 weeks and get BW done again.

                          You might be able to manipulate total T here with an AI.
                          what do you think? 60 points isn't crazy but 495 is still the highest natural I've ever tested. Now I never had blood drawn before delving into AAS so if I judge by the way I feel, my highest natural levels before AAS were still higher as I only feel about 75% on my good days but it's progress.

                          I still have excessive sweating, joint pain, and moodiness from anger to wanting to cry for no reason, but my E is on the low end so that's normal. I've been back in the pro boxing game and have been training 3-4 hours a day for the last 5 weeks (losing body fat as well which is probably dropping my E), and my test is still higher then 8 weeks ago with all this training. But I definitely have been feeling symptoms these last 2 weeks. Thought I was sick but seeing as my E is low it makes sense now. I'm going to start taking DHEA as my levels are low in hopes that it raises E slightly. I guess nothing else I can do.

                          I'm not taking anything other then ZMA either so it's all my body slowly recovering. I'll get a more thorough panel done in another 2 months too see where I'm really sitting at.
                          Last edited by jomamma007; 05-06-2015, 12:56 AM.

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