Tren-A Test-E cycle

[Gavin McGraw]

I'm splitting this up into three parts, to make replies easier to address. Background, cycle and pct

Background: So basically I was an idiot did a shitty test cycle when I was 18. Got gyno and had the surgery to remove it. I waited 3 years and just trained. Then I did a cycle of test e (properly) 6 months ago and I gained 25lbs. I went from 185 to 210 in 12 weeks.
I've been off now for almost 3 months and I'm sitting at 200-205. I would guess 15% BF
I'm almost 22, 6'1 200lbs

Cycle:
Weeks 1-14 test-e @150mg twice a week
Weeks 3-12 tren-a @ 300mg twice a week


PCT: I'll need a bit more advice here since this is my first 19-nor. I'm not tooooo worried about high estrogen levels because I can't get estrogen induced gyno, but I could get prolactin induced gyno. I used hcg and nova for my pervious cycle and had zero sides. Just back acne. Goes away when off. Should I get caber and hcg again?


thanks for the help, cheers.

[Admin]

I'm splitting this up into three parts, to make replies easier to address. Background, cycle and pct

Background: So basically I was an idiot did a shitty test cycle when I was 18. Got gyno and had the surgery to remove it. I waited 3 years and just trained. Then I did a cycle of test e (properly) 6 months ago and I gained 25lbs. I went from 185 to 210 in 12 weeks.
I've been off now for almost 3 months and I'm sitting at 200-205. I would guess 15% BF
I'm almost 22, 6'1 200lbs

Cycle:
Weeks 1-14 test-e @150mg twice a week
Weeks 3-12 tren-a @ 300mg twice a week


PCT: I'll need a bit more advice here since this is my first 19-nor. I'm not tooooo worried about high estrogen levels because I can't get estrogen induced gyno, but I could get prolactin induced gyno. I used hcg and nova for my pervious cycle and had zero sides. Just back acne. Goes away when off. Should I get caber and hcg again?


thanks for the help, cheers.

Well done for taking time off and getting your weight up naturally and learning more about steroids.

Tren Ace needs to be injected every day or every other day, not twice per week. Did you mean Tren Enan?

Add Aromasin 12.5mg/ED to your cycle and HCG at 250-500ius 2x per week.

Keep Tamoxifen and Caber on hand, but you should be fine with an AI on cycle.

PCT is SERM treatment.

wk 1-6 Tamox 20mg/ED (40mg/ED week 1)
wk 1-6 Clomid 25mg/ED (50mg/ED week 1)
*Tribulus Sopharma 750-1000mg/ED
*Humanofort 200-400mg/ED

[warmouth]

Why aren't you toooo worried about high estrogen? And why can't you get estrogen induced gyno? You know with high estrogen, gyno should be one if your least concerns, right? Elevated estrogen is one of the worst things I can think of for a man's body. If you're pinning 150mgs 2x a week, that's still enough to convert and without blood work, there is no way to know exactly how high.

[Gavin McGraw]

I was hoping to take Tren ace. Read a lot about it, and how different it is compared to the enathate form. Didn't find a single article on injecting ED or EOD. Good thing they have these forums hey. So everyday with the normal inch and a half 25gauge into glute? Can I replace clomid with nova? It's a lot easier for my guy to get. What symptoms would I need to identify in order to justify using caber? I will be doing a blood test before, during(maybe) and after.

Thanks a lot. You made me feel a lot more comfortable with my PCT and AI

[Gavin McGraw]

Why aren't you toooo worried about high estrogen? And why can't you get estrogen induced gyno? You know with high estrogen, gyno should be one if your least concerns, right? Elevated estrogen is one of the worst things I can think of for a man's body. If you're pinning 150mgs 2x a week, that's still enough to convert and without blood work, there is no way to know exactly how high.

I will be doing blood work before during and after. I had the entire gland removed or whatever from behind my nipples. They can't grow from too much estrogen. thats really the only physical side. But with too much estrogen in the system I run the risks of cardiovascular problems, fatigue and prostate issues. Which are pretty huge I agree. I see A LOT of guys running their test higher, or equal too Tren. Which chemically speaking is retarded. The test is only to keep bodily functions, Tren will be the main steroid for growth. I might even lower the test to 250 or 200. What do you guys think.

[Admin]

I was hoping to take Tren ace. Read a lot about it, and how different it is compared to the enathate form. Didn't find a single article on injecting ED or EOD. Good thing they have these forums hey. So everyday with the normal inch and a half 25gauge into glute? Can I replace clomid with nova? It's a lot easier for my guy to get. What symptoms would I need to identify in order to justify using caber? I will be doing a blood test before, during(maybe) and after.

Thanks a lot. You made me feel a lot more comfortable with my PCT and AI

Couldn't find a single article on Tren Ace....?

Trenbolone Acetate | Steroidal.com

We also have one on Tren Enan

Trenbolone Enanthate | Steroidal.com

Caber should be kept on hand if prolactin rises, which is a possibility.

Read this: Prolactin | Steroidal.com

You should probably spend some time on our main site reading, we have a TON of the best content online.

[warmouth]

Lol. Yes, tren ace everyday, every other at the very minimum. It would do nothing as the ester will will be clear by the next injection. Even 250mgs will convert. If you aren't going to use an AI, I highly recommend you use 150mgs or less of test. I use 75mgs during cycle, 125mgs for my trt. Let the tren shine and do all the work. Caber and or prami is smart to use, and fun as hell! Sorry I'm short and all over the place. I'm driving (stupid I know).

[Gavin McGraw]

Couldn't find a single article on Tren Ace....?

Trenbolone Acetate | Steroidal.com

We also have one on Tren Enan

Trenbolone Enanthate | Steroidal.com

Caber should be kept on hand if prolactin rises, which is a possibility.

Read this: Prolactin | Steroidal.com

You should probably spend some time on our main site reading, we have a TON of the best content online.

Oh awesome. Couldn't find them😂 thanks!

[Gavin McGraw]

Lol. Yes, tren ace everyday, every other at the very minimum. It would do nothing as the ester will will be clear by the next injection. Even 250mgs will convert. If you aren't going to use an AI, I highly recommend you use 150mgs or less of test. I use 75mgs during cycle, 125mgs for my trt. Let the tren shine and do all the work. Caber and or prami is smart to use, and fun as hell! Sorry I'm short and all over the place. I'm driving (stupid I know).

What size of needles for Tren? Do I have to take them separately or can I stack them? I can get Arimidex. I'll look up to dosage but what do you recommend?

[warmouth]

You can mix the test and tren in the same barrel if that's what you're asking. My preference is 25gx5/8" in the tris, bis, delts, chest, traps. 1" fo glutes (which I never do anymore). For most, a 23g is better, as the oil can be thick and difficult to push through. I'd say if you're guessing doses for armidex, .25mgs every other day should suffice. Don't inject the armidex! Lol.

[Gavin McGraw]

You can mix the test and tren in the same barrel if that's what you're asking. My preference is 25gx5/8" in the tris, bis, delts, chest, traps. 1" fo glutes (which I never do anymore). For most, a 23g is better, as the oil can be thick and difficult to push through. I'd say if you're guessing doses for armidex, .25mgs every other day should suffice. Don't inject the armidex! Lol.

Hahahahah yeah thanks I won't inject it. I would run my test under hot water and it would still take 2 minutes of slow pushing to get it all in. Maybe I'll go 23. Why don't you inject glutes anymore? It's all I do normally. Unless both cheeks are sore then I'll go shoulder.

[warmouth]

I used to do glutes alot, but after switching to upper body and quads, I just don't like it. No real reason, I just don't care for it anymore.

[Admin]

I dont like hitting quads, always painful.

[warmouth]

I know, I know...haha. I've only had 1 issue and it was getting close to a nerve. Only happened once. Didn't hurt, but my leg was involuntarily shaking, so I had to re pin.

[kubes]

I dont like hitting quads, always painful.

If you are pinning in the upper outer area of the quad there shouldnt be much pain or pip at all. Right around were your pocket would be. It took me some time to figure this out but now i pin qauds almost excusivley