First Test E Cycle, First Post, Noob.

[KickMyKiwis]

Okay I've been planning my first cycle for a long time now. But I just want to run things by everyone to make sure it all looks good. (Btw I haven't planned my pct yet and will not start the cycle until I have a solid pct planned out. I am open to suggestions).

First off here's a little bit about me:
Age: 25
I've been lifting for 10 years now. 7 of which has been serious.
Weight: 173 lbs
Height: 5'6
Body Fat: 15%

I eat pretty clean and manage to get in a little over 2grams of protein per body weight all from different sources. What im hoping to expect from this cycle is to add a lbs of lean mass and keeping fat to a minimum.

As for my cycle, here is what I have layed out so far:

For ten weeks I am going to be taking 500mg of Test E divided up into two injections of 250mg a week. I am also going to be taking .5mg of Arimidex ED or .25 E3D for the ten weeks. Depending on whether or not the hcg I get is bunk, I will be taking 250ius twice a week also. Yes, ball size and fertility matters to me but I'm willing to take the risks for gains lol.

Any feedback on my cycle is welcome. Pls let me know if I'm g2g with this sort of layout. Again I haven't sorted out a pct yet so suggestions are also welcome. I have liquid clomid and liquid nolva on hand just to give you an idea of what I have atm. I will have some Letrozole on the way as well just in case I get any gyno flare ups.

I also had another question as well. People I've spoken to at my gym said I should start the hcg on the 2nd week of test e, then stop use on my last pin of test e. Is this correct?

Thanks all in advance!

Btw im new here on steroidal but I've been reading and taking info in for quite awhile now so go easy on me lol im still learning haha. Thanks bros!

[KickMyKiwis]

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[hdh.bf]

I'll weigh in on this but I only have 2 cycles experience. If warmouth, Dan or admin give advice use theirs most of all because those guys are experts.

My first cycle was 250 mg test e for 10 weeks. Gained 15 lbs (5 was water). So if pinning becomes a pain twice a week u can get great results running half what u are planning.

Adex is not a bad AI at all but IMO and many others aromasin is the better choice. You shouldnt even need letro with ur AI but its not bad to have it.

Your hcg plan I believe should be what u said but you are supposed to run it higher ur last 10 days according to the guidelines. I've never used hcg but its a plus for sure. 2 weeks after cycle (or after u do your 10 day hcg finish) ull start pct. I run nolvadex instead of Clomid because of how it doesn't react with aromasin.

The advantage you have pinning twice a week with test e and hcg is that ur blood plasma levels will be more even so your planning this the best way I see. Very glad you are only running 1 androgen your first cycle like u should be. A lot of people try/want to use 4 compounds on a first cycle which is stupid.

The only other advice I might recommend is your first 2 weeks run only a small amount of test e to see how ur body reacts. A friend of mine has to run test cyp because test e makes him sick... This may be the same for you (although unlikely) so smaller amounts are safer ur first time on a compound. Personally I'd say make it a 12 week cycle and only use 125 mg or less your first 2 weeks to make sure your not allergic to the oils the test is suspended in. Then run the last 10 weeks as you planned because you already know your body can handle it... But that's up to you.

Pct should be 5 weeks. U can read about the doses in the library section if the site. My nolva is pill form. Dont know about liquid.

[Admin]

Okay I've been planning my first cycle for a long time now. But I just want to run things by everyone to make sure it all looks good. (Btw I haven't planned my pct yet and will not start the cycle until I have a solid pct planned out. I am open to suggestions).

First off here's a little bit about me:
Age: 25
I've been lifting for 10 years now. 7 of which has been serious.
Weight: 173 lbs
Height: 5'6
Body Fat: 15%

I eat pretty clean and manage to get in a little over 2grams of protein per body weight all from different sources. What im hoping to expect from this cycle is to add a lbs of lean mass and keeping fat to a minimum.

As for my cycle, here is what I have layed out so far:

For ten weeks I am going to be taking 500mg of Test E divided up into two injections of 250mg a week. I am also going to be taking .5mg of Arimidex ED or .25 E3D for the ten weeks. Depending on whether or not the hcg I get is bunk, I will be taking 250ius twice a week also. Yes, ball size and fertility matters to me but I'm willing to take the risks for gains lol.

Any feedback on my cycle is welcome. Pls let me know if I'm g2g with this sort of layout. Again I haven't sorted out a pct yet so suggestions are also welcome. I have liquid clomid and liquid nolva on hand just to give you an idea of what I have atm. I will have some Letrozole on the way as well just in case I get any gyno flare ups.

I also had another question as well. People I've spoken to at my gym said I should start the hcg on the 2nd week of test e, then stop use on my last pin of test e. Is this correct?

Thanks all in advance!

Btw im new here on steroidal but I've been reading and taking info in for quite awhile now so go easy on me lol im still learning haha. Thanks bros!

Well done for doing your research, your cycle looks solid. Although I'd go with injecting 250mg of Test every 4 days, so slightly lower than 500mg/wk.

Yes, you can start HCG week 2.

I prefer to ramp HCG for the final 4-5 shots, doubling the dosage before PCT begins. You need to make sure you have Tamox on hand in case of an gyno irritation.

PCT should last 6 weeks and be a combination of 2 SERMs.

[Admin]

That said, if you're open to using other compounds besides Testosterone, you have options.

I started steroids at 19 and wish I used some orals low dosage before, so my suggestions are:

Cycle #1

wk 1-8 Anavar 50-80mg/ED

Cycle #2

wk 1-8 Turinabol 40-80mg/ED

HCG wont be needed, not will an AI, but you can keep one on hand (I always do).

[KickMyKiwis]

I'll weigh in on this but I only have 2 cycles experience. If warmouth, Dan or admin give advice use theirs most of all because those guys are experts.

My first cycle was 250 mg test e for 10 weeks. Gained 15 lbs (5 was water). So if pinning becomes a pain twice a week u can get great results running half what u are planning.

Adex is not a bad AI at all but IMO and many others aromasin is the better choice. You shouldnt even need letro with ur AI but its not bad to have it.

Your hcg plan I believe should be what u said but you are supposed to run it higher ur last 10 days according to the guidelines. I've never used hcg but its a plus for sure. 2 weeks after cycle (or after u do your 10 day hcg finish) ull start pct. I run nolvadex instead of Clomid because of how it doesn't react with aromasin.

The advantage you have pinning twice a week with test e and hcg is that ur blood plasma levels will be more even so your planning this the best way I see. Very glad you are only running 1 androgen your first cycle like u should be. A lot of people try/want to use 4 compounds on a first cycle which is stupid.

The only other advice I might recommend is your first 2 weeks run only a small amount of test e to see how ur body reacts. A friend of mine has to run test cyp because test e makes him sick... This may be the same for you (although unlikely) so smaller amounts are safer ur first time on a compound. Personally I'd say make it a 12 week cycle and only use 125 mg or less your first 2 weeks to make sure your not allergic to the oils the test is suspended in. Then run the last 10 weeks as you planned because you already know your body can handle it... But that's up to you.

Pct should be 5 weeks. U can read about the doses in the library section if the site. My nolva is pill form. Dont know about liquid.

Hey thanks for the feedback! 10lbs of muscle out of tht 15 is actually quite impressive! I'm actually considering that now. I dont mind injections but it would be more convenient pinning test e once a week.

And I've been doing more research as far as AIs go, I've decided to go with aromasin as well. How much aromasin would u recommend using during the cycle in place of the arimidex?

But yeah honestly, Im not sure Id even want to use more than one androgen at a time. Well maybe later, but for now I'm just gettin my feet wet lol.

Speaking of sickness while on test e, I've been hearing and reading about tons of people feeling "sick" or feeling a ridiculous amount of pain after a test e pin. Have u felt any of these while u were on? and did ur friend have any good results with the test C?

Sorry for all the questions mate.

[KickMyKiwis]

Well done for doing your research, your cycle looks solid. Although I'd go with injecting 250mg of Test every 4 days, so slightly lower than 500mg/wk.

Yes, you can start HCG week 2.

I prefer to ramp HCG for the final 4-5 shots, doubling the dosage before PCT begins. You need to make sure you have Tamox on hand in case of an gyno irritation.

PCT should last 6 weeks and be a combination of 2 SERMs.

Thanks for the reply! I will go ahead and go forth with pinning every four days.

With the HCG a, I will ramp up the dose to 1000ius in the last ten days before PCT. Is there a benefit to ramping up the dose like that in the time frame before PCT?

Regarding my PCT would tamox, and clomid for 6 weeks be fine? Any suggestions on how you might dose the two?

[KickMyKiwis]

That said, if you're open to using other compounds besides Testosterone, you have options.

I started steroids at 19 and wish I used some orals low dosage before, so my suggestions are:

Cycle #1

wk 1-8 Anavar 50-80mg/ED

Cycle #2

wk 1-8 Turinabol 40-80mg/ED

HCG wont be needed, not will an AI, but you can keep one on hand (I always do).

I've considered doing orals in the past, but felt intimidated by them. People I've talked to at the gym sorta scared me away from it saying it'll mess up my liver big time and libido is even harder to get back.

Not sure how true that is though as my knowledge of orals isn't much.

Any reason why you wished you would have done orals in the past? And any major differences as far as results go between injectables an orals?

[KickMyKiwis]

Your feedback is much appreciated guys. I have a lot more to research still before I start. I will tweak with my cycle layout a bit and run it through you guys once I've got it all set to see if I'm g2g. DAMN IM EXCITED LOL. but kinda freaked out at the same time after reading those pain stories with the test e...
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[Admin]

Thanks for the reply! I will go ahead and go forth with pinning every four days.

With the HCG a, I will ramp up the dose to 1000ius in the last ten days before PCT. Is there a benefit to ramping up the dose like that in the time frame before PCT?

Regarding my PCT would tamox, and clomid for 6 weeks be fine? Any suggestions on how you might dose the two?

HCG at 250ius on cycle and 500ius ramping.

It kind of kicks the tests into restarting and will increase endogenous testosterone going into PCT.

wk 1-6 Clomid 25mg/ED (50mg/ED week 1)
wk 1-6 Tamox 20mg/ED (40mg/ED week 1)

[hdh.bf]

I got 'test flu' for 1 day. Got really hot and dizzy, slept for like 12 hours. That's the only issue I had on test e.

The test c is super close to test e so he got great results. I hear that c is in like cotton seed oil whereas e is like grape seed oil or something like that. I'd assume its the different oil that causes problems for him.

Aromasin you want to start at 10-12.5 mg daily. My caps are 25 mg each so I took half to start. When my nipples got tender (gyno sign) I went to 25 mg a day. I got 0 problems after that. It keeps off the water weight pretty well too.

I've used anavar at 20 mg daily and it cut my abs out great. I used anadrol 50 and got huge strength gains but they almost completely were lost after cycle (it was a anadrol cycle only for 4 weeks) so I'm not planning on using that again, seems a waste.

[KickMyKiwis]

HCG at 250ius on cycle and 500ius ramping.

It kind of kicks the tests into restarting and will increase endogenous testosterone going into PCT.

wk 1-6 Clomid 25mg/ED (50mg/ED week 1)
wk 1-6 Tamox 20mg/ED (40mg/ED week 1)

I got 'test flu' for 1 day. Got really hot and dizzy, slept for like 12 hours. That's the only issue I had on test e.

The test c is super close to test e so he got great results. I hear that c is in like cotton seed oil whereas e is like grape seed oil or something like that. I'd assume its the different oil that causes problems for him.

Aromasin you want to start at 10-12.5 mg daily. My caps are 25 mg each so I took half to start. When my nipples got tender (gyno sign) I went to 25 mg a day. I got 0 problems after that. It keeps off the water weight pretty well too.

I've used anavar at 20 mg daily and it cut my abs out great. I used anadrol 50 and got huge strength gains but they almost completely were lost after cycle (it was a anadrol cycle only for 4 weeks) so I'm not planning on using that again, seems a waste.

Alright guys I took everything u said and re did the layout. Here's what I have as of now:

Wk 1-10: Test E 250mg every 4 days
Wk 1-10: HCG 250ius every 4 days
Wk 1-10: Aromasin 12.5 daily (will bump up to 25mg if the nips get tender.)
Wk 10-12: HCG 500ius Mondays and Thursday's until PCT

PCT:
First week: 50mg of Clomid and 40mg of Tamox daily
Remaining 5 weeks: 25mg daily Clomid and 20mg of Tamox daily

Quick question for you two. IF I were throw some Anavar into this cycle, what would need to change in the layout I have currently? Would there be any additional things I'll need to take? Or would it be wise to save it for my second cycle if I dig the results from this one? (Which I know I will lol.) I only ask bc I would also like to stay as lean as possible on cycle. I feel that Anavar alongside with my diet and Test E would do an incredible job with that. Thanks for the replies guys!

[Admin]

Alright guys I took everything u said and re did the layout. Here's what I have as of now:

Wk 1-10: Test E 250mg every 4 days
Wk 1-10: HCG 250ius every 4 days
Wk 1-10: Aromasin 12.5 daily (will bump up to 25mg if the nips get tender.)
Wk 10-12: HCG 500ius Mondays and Thursday's until PCT

PCT:
First week: 50mg of Clomid and 40mg of Tamox daily
Remaining 5 weeks: 25mg daily Clomid and 20mg of Tamox daily

Quick question for you two. IF I were throw some Anavar into this cycle, what would need to change in the layout I have currently? Would there be any additional things I'll need to take? Or would it be wise to save it for my second cycle if I dig the results from this one? (Which I know I will lol.) I only ask bc I would also like to stay as lean as possible on cycle. I feel that Anavar alongside with my diet and Test E would do an incredible job with that. Thanks for the replies guys!

Cycle looks good.

If your goals are muscle mass, make sure you increase calories.

I'd leave Anavar for your second spin, but you could do 50mg/ED for the final 6 weeks. However, Test only will yield excellent results if your training and diet are in check.

[KickMyKiwis]

Cycle looks good.

If your goals are muscle mass, make sure you increase calories.

I'd leave Anavar for your second spin, but you could do 50mg/ED for the final 6 weeks. However, Test only will yield excellent results if your training and diet are in check.

Yeah you're right. I'll wait it out second time around looks like I'm set then for now. Ill likely start around October due to some at home issues at the moment but when I do, I'll run a log for sure in case I run into any on cycle complications.

Registering to the forums was probably the best thing I've done this month lol... No regrets at all my friend

[hdh.bf]

Ya wait it out on the var. Your gonna freak on the results man ur gonna love it and the incredible strength. I hope u Will keep us updated on how ur first cycle goes.