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    Hi I am new to this forum, and am hoping for an answer to what I thought was a simple question.
    Age:28
    Height: 5'10
    Weight: 210
    NF: true 15%
    11 years weight training experience
    Experienced in cycling gear
    Current diet is clean bill
    Know that all the personal info is out the way, I am curious what the true ester weight of the phenyl prop ester is. I understand that the heavier the etster the more mg it takes up of active hormone. My confusion comes in with say NPP for example, per 100 mg I am finding only 63 mg is active hormone. This is just high to me considering its a fast acting ester. I mean I am reading the phenyl prop etster takes up more weight than Enanthate does. This just doesn't seem correct to me considering its a step above prop. Also, to clarify the hormone in question is Nandrolone. Any senior member care to explain or clarify?

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    Wow. A technical question! Haha. Im confused as to what you mean by weight. The hormone weight of the PP ester is usually measured ad .85, which I'm my opinion, in brewing anyways, is that it is accurate. The heavy esters are lighter, and is the reason they can be dosed higher without crashing. With a short ester, typically there is a lower hormone per ml than a longer ester. But the PP ester, although shorter than enanthate, isn't by much. I think the PP has a higher hormone to ml than prop for sure. When I cycle PP, I don't consider it a short ester cycle. It is when compared to the deconate ester, but I still inject right along with my enanthate testosterone. 3x weekly. It's a pretty long ester, but short compared to deca.

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    • #3
      Thanks Warmouth for your response. I guess what I am asking is per 100 mg of NPP I am only finding it has 63 mg of Nandrolone. Is this truly the case. I assumed it would be higher considering it was a faster acting ester. Sorry for all the typos in my first post btw.

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      • #4
        I do think it is closer to 70%. But in using it, there is never a need in adding/subtracting injection volume. Just pretend it is 100% and go with it. It's just mental. Even if you wanted to go pro, they don't even consider the hormone weight. It's really only important if brewing, even then, it's not huge. I know I have better results with 100mgs of NPP EOD than 600mgs deca EW. For me, the shorter the ester, the better my body responds. But I wouldn't ever worry that you aren't getting a true mg/ml (so to speak). If you trust your source, you'll be fine. If it's sketchy, then it can actually be underdosed. That's why I brew. I'm not a trusting person, and I like dosing my gear higher than average. I'll brew NPP dosed at 200mgs. Very carefully however, as this high is crash very easy if it isn't perfect.

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        • #5
          Thanks man your the bomb. Yeah the source is solid by far best I have ever come across and by far the best in GA. Cheers my friend!

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          • #6
            No problem. Anything else, just ask. Thanks for joining up!

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