Lets talk TRENBOLONE...

[warmouth]

You too. Glad you made it over!

[warmouth]

ive used 300mg and 600mg before, i got virtually no sides with 300mg, at 600mg i got temperary night sweats and minor aggression. what did it do for my body? question should be what didnt it do! ha

Were your results good at 300mgs?

[kubes]

The other debate out there is that tren doesn't convert to estrogen but causes the test to have more sides? Also the debate that when running tren it can throw labs off and show false high Estrogen reading? Any thoughts?

[Dan C]

The other debate out there is that tren doesn't convert to estrogen but causes the test to have more sides? Also the debate that when running tren it can throw labs off and show false high Estrogen reading? Any thoughts?

This is correct. See my Trenbolone profile here (specifically, the side effects subsection here Trenbolone Side Effects | Steroidal.com) for more in-depth detailed explanation as to why progestins such as Trenbolone can and does exacerbate the Estrogenic side effects that result from aromatizable AAS such as Testosterone. In the Trenbolone side effects subsection, scroll down to where it says "Progesterone and Prolactin related gynecomastia issues" and read that paragraph. Everything is answered right there.

What you mentioned about Trenbolone throwing lab results off showing high Estrogen I know nothing about. That is the first time I've heard of something like that, to be honest. I can't verify whether or not that is true at this time.

[kubes]

This is correct. See my Trenbolone profile here (specifically, the side effects subsection here Trenbolone Side Effects | Steroidal.com) for more in-depth detailed explanation as to why progestins such as Trenbolone can and does exacerbate the Estrogenic side effects that result from aromatizable AAS such as Testosterone. In the Trenbolone side effects subsection, scroll down to where it says "Progesterone and Prolactin related gynecomastia issues" and read that paragraph. Everything is answered right there.

What you mentioned about Trenbolone throwing lab results off showing high Estrogen I know nothing about. That is the first time I've heard of something like that, to be honest. I can't verify whether or not that is true at this time.

Well it will be interesting to find out about if it throws the labs off or not. I am one of the lucky ones that does not require an AI unless i run higher than 800 mg EW of test. I have ran labs several times and even with T levels at close to 3,500 ng/dl on my low day of my next pin me E had never came back higher than 41. I have added tren to the mix this time a low dose 300 ew to see how i react and in a week i will run labs to make adjustments.

[TroN]

Were your results good at 300mgs?

not as good as 600! haha they were pretty good. virtually no side for me, gave me a hard, full look and strength that def surpassed test only. good place to start for you, you wont be disappointed with that dose. im just an extremist and push the envelope lol

[TroN]

Well it will be interesting to find out about if it throws the labs off or not. I am one of the lucky ones that does not require an AI unless i run higher than 800 mg EW of test. I have ran labs several times and even with T levels at close to 3,500 ng/dl on my low day of my next pin me E had never came back higher than 41. I have added tren to the mix this time a low dose 300 ew to see how i react and in a week i will run labs to make adjustments.

would really be interested in this, dont forget to update!

[kubes]

would really be interested in this, dont forget to update!

I know i should probably start a log somewhere? Even so i wont till i run labs

[Dan C]

Jim, now that I think about it.... I know why people might be saying that Trenbolone throws off labs...

The claims that it can throw off labs and display high Estrogen levels are from anecdotal observations by people, but these people are not logically thinking about this and/or are not considering many different factors. First of all, ALL TRENBOLONE is manufactured by underground labs (UGL). There is currently no such thing as pharmaceutical grade Trenbolone. Almost all Trenbolone manufactured by UGLs are made from Finaplix pellets (or similar cattle implant pellets that contain Trenbolone). The problem here is that a lot of these cattle implant pellets ALSO contain Estrogen in them alongside the Trenbolone. Yes, pure Estrogen, which is intended for various purposes in cattle. The problem is that many UGLs don't even properly brew their Trenbolone correctly with Finaplix pellets, which almost always contain Estrogen in them as well. There are many UGL Trenbolone products that are manufactured without regards to the Estrogen that already exists in the pellets they are brewed from, and what results is people injecting pure Estrogen into themselves along with the Trenbolone.

Get bloodwork done after that, and of course you'll end up with labs showing high Estrogen!

[kubes]

Jim, now that I think about it.... I know why people might be saying that Trenbolone throws off labs...

The claims that it can throw off labs and display high Estrogen levels are from anecdotal observations by people, but these people are not logically thinking about this and/or are not considering many different factors. First of all, ALL TRENBOLONE is manufactured by underground labs (UGL). There is currently no such thing as pharmaceutical grade Trenbolone. Almost all Trenbolone manufactured by UGLs are made from Finaplix pellets (or similar cattle implant pellets that contain Trenbolone). The problem here is that a lot of these cattle implant pellets ALSO contain Estrogen in them alongside the Trenbolone. Yes, pure Estrogen, which is intended for various purposes in cattle. The problem is that many UGLs don't even properly brew their Trenbolone correctly with Finaplix pellets, which almost always contain Estrogen in them as well. There are many UGL Trenbolone products that are manufactured without regards to the Estrogen that already exists in the pellets they are brewed from, and what results is people injecting pure Estrogen into themselves along with the Trenbolone.

Get bloodwork done after that, and of course you'll end up with labs showing high Estrogen!

Now that's an awesome post that gave me the exact info i was looking for!! Great job Dan!

[warmouth]

Heck,you you guys think I should juststart at 100mgs instead of 75 EOD? That breaksdown to 350 a week,

[Dan C]

Heck,you you guys think I should juststart at 100mgs instead of 75 EOD? That breaksdown to 350 a week,

Either or. Sounds like you're still a bit scared of Trenbolone, lol. Just go for 100mg EOD then. It really is not that far off from 75mg EOD. You can always reduce dosage if you find something seems off or not to your liking. That's the beauty of Acetate.

[warmouth]

Either or. Sounds like you're still a bit scared of Trenbolone, lol. Just go for 100mg EOD then. It really is not that far off from 75mg EOD. You can always reduce dosage if you find something seems off or not to your liking. That's the beauty of Acetate.

Ahhhh. I think I will!

[Admin]

Anyone notice much difference in side effects with Enanthate compared to Acetate?

[kubes]

Not really still sweat like crazy at night