Begginer focused on strenght / lean mass

[Admin]

Sorry admin if was not clear. I already read that article, read the hcg importance on cycle too, but my doubt is related to why in some cases both are used and sometimes just ai. I completely understand the importance of ai and its relation to estrogen creation. I always try to read befor asking but this time could not get anything that clarifies my need. Thanks anyway.

Using a SEMR on cycle is outdated information, but Tamoxifen or Ralox should always be kept on hand.

Some may require both when using progestins such as Tren or Deca.

SERMS will also lower IGF-1 which is a potent muscle building hormone.

[warmouth]

You will need to ask someone else on that. I like to use what has been proven. Not saying those haven't, I just have no experience with it, nor do I know anyone who has.

[mpwlift]

Hi guys, end of july coming, ready to start my cycle next monday. I could not find Anavar here so I will use winstrol to combine the test p. This will be my final layout.

CYCLE
wk 1-8 Test Prop 100mg/EOD
wk 3-8 Winstrol 50mg/ED
wk 1-8 Aromasin 12.5mg/ED
wk 2-8 HCG 500ius 2x per week
wk 1-8 clenbuterol doing 2 wks on/off

PCT
wk 1-2 HCG 1000ui E2D (monday/thursday/sunday/wednesday/saturday = 5000ui total)
wk 1-2 Aromasin 25mg/ED
wk 1-6 Tamox 20mg/ED (40mg/ED week 1)
wk 1-6 Clomid 25mg/ED

Have 2 questions fo u guys...
1- do u think I can run winstrol for all 8 weeks at 50mg/ED safely ?
2- can clenbuterol be run during PCT too ?

Thanks!

[Admin]

Hi guys, end of july coming, ready to start my cycle next monday. I could not find Anavar here so I will use winstrol to combine the test p. This will be my final layout.

CYCLE
wk 1-8 Test Prop 100mg/EOD
wk 3-8 Winstrol 50mg/ED
wk 1-8 Aromasin 12.5mg/ED
wk 2-8 HCG 500ius 2x per week
wk 1-8 clenbuterol doing 2 wks on/off

PCT
wk 1-2 HCG 1000ui E2D (monday/thursday/sunday/wednesday/saturday = 5000ui total)
wk 1-2 Aromasin 25mg/ED
wk 1-6 Tamox 20mg/ED (40mg/ED week 1)
wk 1-6 Clomid 25mg/ED

Have 2 questions fo u guys...
1- do u think I can run winstrol for all 8 weeks at 50mg/ED safely ?
2- can clenbuterol be run during PCT too ?

Thanks!

1. Yes. To be on the safe side you could get blood testing done after 4-5 weeks and see where you are.

Also remember a cycle support supplement, I like Advanced Cycle Support by IML.

2. Yes, but there is no point. It wont provide much anabolic support and you dont want to be cutting calories/cutting during PCT as you need to be in a calorie surplus to maintain as much muscle tissue as possible.

[mpwlift]

1. Yes. To be on the safe side you could get blood testing done after 4-5 weeks and see where you are.

Also remember a cycle support supplement, I like Advanced Cycle Support by IML.

2. Yes, but there is no point. It wont provide much anabolic support and you dont want to be cutting calories/cutting during PCT as you need to be in a calorie surplus to maintain as much muscle tissue as possible.

Thanks for the fast reply.

About the cycle support by IML , I already have it so will be supporting me all 14 weeks (will take it during PCT too for safe). Finally about clen, has total sense what u re saying, i did not think it that way but u are right... will drop it on wk 8. Have a nice day!

[Admin]

Thanks for the fast reply.

About the cycle support by IML , I already have it so will be supporting me all 14 weeks (will take it during PCT too for safe). Finally about clen, has total sense what u re saying, i did not think it that way but u are right... will drop it on wk 8. Have a nice day!

No problem.

Will you be logging your progress here?

[mpwlift]

No problem.

Will you be logging your progress here?

For sure... i am not a fan of meassuring myself but at least my bf % , strenght improvements and phisical changes will be all here for u to know and suggest. Is it correct to make a log in this thread or better to create a specific one ?

[warmouth]

Create a specific one. That way it won't get lost in the threads. I'll be following.

[Admin]

Create a specific one. That way it won't get lost in the threads. I'll be following.

Agreed.