Fatman Chronicle

[LARGERTHANNORMAL]

Lol haha I was going to say I meant cardio but that counts as a form of cardio...

I guess you'll have to do double cardio on days you guys meet up , lol

[Mini-G]

I guess everyone is diff in cardio preferences..as long as your gettn it...

Woman started college today.... No sex for me.

FUCK

[LARGERTHANNORMAL]

I guess everyone is diff in cardio preferences..as long as your gettn it...

[LARGERTHANNORMAL]

I don't do all the high heart rate crap at all. In fact; I'm 100% against cardio in all forms excluding sex, lol. You'll lose mass and size; but the overall result is still more impressive. I'm just a little guy (5'9"ish, 206 lbs, sub 10% BF) and I couldn't tell you the when the last time I gave a shit about a macro was, lol

I wish I had those genetics.. I have fat man genetics

PS nice stats buddy!

[LARGERTHANNORMAL]

My other 2 cents, I think find a machine hit a target heart rate of about 150ish and hold it for a desired time.( preference but I understand why you guys may not like it)

At his bf% I don't think he has to fear loosing much lbm , he will but not as much as some1 who is lower. Also leads me to think the hit style is more for some1 who is leaner and trying to maintain lbm. I understand he is but I don't think hell need to apply it for a bit..

Also I didn't read but are you on aas mini ?

PS the yogurt tuna is a love hate thing lol

[Mini-G]

I don't do all the high heart rate crap at all. In fact; I'm 100% against cardio in all forms excluding sex, lol. You'll lose mass and size; but the overall result is still more impressive. I'm just a little guy (5'9"ish, 206 lbs, sub 10% BF) and I couldn't tell you the when the last time I gave a shit about a macro was, lol

I'm anal like that. Everything has to be math or science

[theoneandonly]

I love the scale at my gym... I get on and it says OL.

Over load.

Like really? This is a gym way to inspire confidence/allow people to weigh themselves

Fuck scales, macro's, infomerical diets, and all that bullshit. It all comes from 3 things; Hard Work, Diet, Dedication. You can boost it with AAS but at the end of the day; those 3 things define the results.

[theoneandonly]

Makes sense. Only thing is is I don't do all that high heart rate crap that's apparently bad for you. I am a firm believer in the fat burning zone. Not because I'm lazy and don't wanna kick up the pace. But because I actually enjoy cardio and I allows me to be lax but stern with my workout. Size is still priority one here. And no I won't lose mass either way, Ill lose size.

I don't do all the high heart rate crap at all. In fact; I'm 100% against cardio in all forms excluding sex, lol. You'll lose mass and size; but the overall result is still more impressive. I'm just a little guy (5'9"ish, 206 lbs, sub 10% BF) and I couldn't tell you the when the last time I gave a shit about a macro was, lol

[Mini-G]

I love the scale at my gym... I get on and it says OL.

Over load.

Like really? This is a gym way to inspire confidence/allow people to weigh themselves

[Mini-G]

You're gonna lose mass no matter what.... because there is fat in between muscle fiber right... so don't sweat it. My point was that you have a lot to gain (or lose per se) regardless of if you count macros and all that jazz or not. HIIT is not a crock of shit... cardio is. HIIT is proven to burn fat... "cardio" like running and all that shit is proven to scar heart valves over time (Google: Runners Heart). HIIT gives you just enough "cardio" so that you don't have to have separate cardio days or step foot on a treadmill.

You're fat... so what... that just means your gains will come faster and be a lot more obvious.

Makes sense. Only thing is is I don't do all that high heart rate crap that's apparently bad for you. I am a firm believer in the fat burning zone. Not because I'm lazy and don't wanna kick up the pace. But because I actually enjoy cardio and I allows me to be lax but stern with my workout. Size is still priority one here. And no I won't lose mass either way, Ill lose size.

[theoneandonly]

That's.... Pretty well exactly what I'm doing? Why about this whole thread lead you to believe otherwise? And naw ill do this the long hard way. Counting macros as making sure I don't lose my mass. Fatloss may be ALL THAT AND MORE to the rest of you but to me... Meh. I've been fat all my life so I'm ok with taking time. Which I am.

You're gonna lose mass no matter what.... because there is fat in between muscle fiber right... so don't sweat it. My point was that you have a lot to gain (or lose per se) regardless of if you count macros and all that jazz or not. HIIT is not a crock of shit... cardio is. HIIT is proven to burn fat... "cardio" like running and all that shit is proven to scar heart valves over time (Google: Runners Heart). HIIT gives you just enough "cardio" so that you don't have to have separate cardio days or step foot on a treadmill.

You're fat... so what... that just means your gains will come faster and be a lot more obvious.

[Mini-G]

Except HIIT training that's a crock of shit

[Mini-G]

Meh.... your diet is off. First thing you need to do is switch your routine so you are doing more of an HIIT type routine; no rest between sets and keep the pace up. Then, eat every 2-3 hours to teach your body that it has a constant nutritional supply so you don't store "energy" in the form of fat. Go high protein intake (10g every 2 hours) and low carbs, as well as only eat minimal amounts of food based sugars (typically pre-workout). Don't worry about counting macros yet... worry about training your body to stop storing fat. Fat cells never go away; they shrink. Keep that in mind when you work towards your goals. You can't actually remove fat cells without surgery (or dying). Best you can do is shrink them so focus on that first. The rest comes with time.

That's.... Pretty well exactly what I'm doing? Why about this whole thread lead you to believe otherwise? And naw ill do this the long hard way. Counting macros as making sure I don't lose my mass. Fatloss may be ALL THAT AND MORE to the rest of you but to me... Meh. I've been fat all my life so I'm ok with taking time. Which I am.

[theoneandonly]

Meh.... your diet is off. First thing you need to do is switch your routine so you are doing more of an HIIT type routine; no rest between sets and keep the pace up. Then, eat every 2-3 hours to teach your body that it has a constant nutritional supply so you don't store "energy" in the form of fat. Go high protein intake (10g every 2 hours) and low carbs, as well as only eat minimal amounts of food based sugars (typically pre-workout). Don't worry about counting macros yet... worry about training your body to stop storing fat. Fat cells never go away; they shrink. Keep that in mind when you work towards your goals. You can't actually remove fat cells without surgery (or dying). Best you can do is shrink them so focus on that first. The rest comes with time.

[Mini-G]

So I'm going to have my food deficit at 300 cal but create a 200 cal further deficit from cardio. Will equal out to 500 a day. We'll see how that works out !