In my opinion, tren A should be administered every day! No major sides from a few hours after pin until about 18-24 hours later. Noticing this a lot lately. Going to start using 50 mgs ED from here on out. That A ester is just too short for EOD adminiatration for me.
							
						
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 Would you consider a longer ester during the future? I'm using Enanthate right now. Any benefits to the shorter ester apart from being able to stop quickly if sides get too difficult?Originally posted by warmouth View PostIn my opinion, tren A should be administered every day! No major sides from a few hours after pin until about 18-24 hours later. Noticing this a lot lately. Going to start using 50 mgs ED from here on out. That A ester is just too short for EOD adminiatration for me.
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 I'm a short ester guy. I like the quickness of results and short cycle duration. But I will use a long ester eventually. I don't think sides would be as bad to be honest. I am fine with tren A for about 24 hours after pinning. After that, I get sweats, insomnia, etc. Once pinned again, I'm good 2 or 3 hours later.Originally posted by NoBull View PostWould you consider a longer ester during the future? I'm using Enanthate right now. Any benefits to the shorter ester apart from being able to stop quickly if sides get too difficult?
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 Also, I'm going to brew some tren E dosed at 250mg/ml and use it alongside my trt whem I'm "off". Just 200mgs weekly to see what happens.Originally posted by NoBull View PostWould you consider a longer ester during the future? I'm using Enanthate right now. Any benefits to the shorter ester apart from being able to stop quickly if sides get too difficult?
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 I'm wishing I'd have gotten more. I was just uneasy at first and though 100mgs eod was going to be rough. Well, I wish I was at 125-150. Nothing other than severe insomnia. I really like it. Sides are easily controlled and managed. Nothing to be scared of. Man I need some more!
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 Told ya........Originally posted by warmouth View PostI'm wishing I'd have gotten more. I was just uneasy at first and though 100mgs eod was going to be rough. Well, I wish I was at 125-150. Nothing other than severe insomnia. I really like it. Sides are easily controlled and managed. Nothing to be scared of. Man I need some more!
 
 The fear of Tren. is mostly hype........."The only easy day was yesterday"
 
 "I am immortal......I have within me blood of kings.........I am unrivaled.....no man can be my equal"
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 I don't do real high doses anymore........Electra wont let me....lol.......it's not likely I'll ever reach more than half the dose sizes I previously used.........she thinks I'm gonna kill myself........Originally posted by magnusBear you usually do real high doses right? What is a usual cycle like for you? Do you go with short or long ester? What do you stack the tren with?
 
 Thanks
 
 Anyway........I use long ester Test. because I never come off it but short ester Tren. so when I'm ready to cruise it clears my system almost immediately. I've never used Tren. with anything other than Test., but last week I started using Masteron too.........so I'll let you all know how that turns out in about 8 weeks.."The only easy day was yesterday"
 
 "I am immortal......I have within me blood of kings.........I am unrivaled.....no man can be my equal"
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 This is what I want to experience with tren! Keep us updated on this one.Originally posted by BEAR View PostI don't do real high doses anymore........Electra wont let me....lol.......it's not likely I'll ever reach more than half the dose sizes I previously used.........she thinks I'm gonna kill myself........
 
 Anyway........I use long ester Test. because I never come off it but short ester Tren. so when I'm ready to cruise it clears my system almost immediately. I've never used Tren. with anything other than Test., but last week I started using Masteron too.........so I'll let you all know how that turns out in about 8 weeks.
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 Yeah. I lost quite a bit of weight n the first few weeks. I was eating under maintenance, along with 100mcgs of T3, so what should I have expected??? Lol. Lesson learned. The last 2 weeks Ive ramped up calories and have gained alot of size in a very short time. If I can get some brewed up before the end of this cycle, Ill ramp to 150mgs EOD for 2 more weeks, then cruise. The biggest thing is keeping calories up. Tren makes it hard to eat during normal eating hours. I find myself eating a ton from midnight-3amOriginally posted by magnusSo besides wishing you had more how are things going? What are results so far? You are about 5-6 weeks in right?  
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 I want to use longs myself but it take forever for my body to respond. Seriously, like 8 weeks.
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 The last few days have been rough. I get out of breathe easy, even just talking. My BP is getting harder to manage, as well as heart rate. I've started taking 1.5 of my BP medication as well as a whole beta blocker. It is still up around 155/95.
 Only have 2.5 weeks left, so hopefully I can fine tune for the next time.
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 Get that BP down NOW brother.........that sh!t ain't nothin' to fvck with..........I admit, it's not way out of control or anything & it may not kill you.........YET..........but it is certainly inducing undue stress on your heart & vascular system that could lead to problems in the future.........do whatever it takes to get it down & keep it down.Originally posted by warmouth View PostI want to use longs myself but it take forever for my body to respond. Seriously, like 8 weeks.
 *UPDATE on tren:
 The last few days have been rough. I get out of breathe easy, even just talking. My BP is getting harder to manage, as well as heart rate. I've started taking 1.5 of my BP medication as well as a whole beta blocker. It is still up around 155/95.
 Only have 2.5 weeks left, so hopefully I can fine tune for the next time.."The only easy day was yesterday"
 
 "I am immortal......I have within me blood of kings.........I am unrivaled.....no man can be my equal"
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 Agree. My normal BP is 140-145/85-95, and thats with meds. Now that it has spiked, Ive increased my meds by 1.5x and hoping that works. Been on 4 grams of fish oil, vit E, CoQ10 and a host of others as well. Will check back tommorrow if Im still around, lol. I got to get this under control for real.Originally posted by BEAR View PostGet that BP down NOW brother.........that sh!t ain't nothin' to fvck with..........I admit, it's not way out of control or anything & it may not kill you.........YET..........but it is certainly inducing undue stress on your heart & vascular system that could lead to problems in the future.........do whatever it takes to get it down & keep it down.
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 Ha ha. Thanks man! Still kicking. BP is still elevated. I'm going to try and get my doc to let me try and do it myself while she manages it. Thinking about asking her for doubled dose of my lisinopril, double beta blocker, and a mild diuretic. If that don't work, nothing will.Originally posted by magnusStay alive buddy you are one of my favorites here.
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 War, my BP had shot up from Tren as well. Threw it into my cycle about the same time as you. All I had to do was drop HCG and add some Letro, and I was fine. Joints hurt a little, but it worked. 132/72 was the reading yesterday. Not sure if this is any use to you as it might not be the estrogen causing it for you. (I know very little about estrogen and the like)
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