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[jasona]

Yes, you can use slin pins and go IM or sub-q.

100mcg of each CJC 1295 w/o DAC with GHRP-6. AM, PWO and before bed. As I said, the hunger will allow you to put some serious food away alone.

What are we talking about in terms of gains? I know enough about them to know that they do more than increase hunger - what are gains like? Do they help promote leanness?

[Admin]

What are we talking about in terms of gains? I know enough about them to know that they do more than increase hunger - what are gains like? Do they help promote leanness?

I was at my leanest. Takes about 6-8 weeks to notice. However, when you stop you don't seem to hold the gains like you do with HGH. Thats what I saw reported a lot anyhow. Never used HGH, only peptides.

[Bull]

Can you elaborate on your experiences with these? I know OTS also has experience with these as well. $60 is pretty easily affordable. $250+ for HGH is something I can budget for when I feel comfortable with my savings and have school things locked up and paid for, or a second job. Pins are super cheap, and you use slin pins for CJC and GHRP right?

Bodybuilding and budgeting is huge IMO. I love bodybuilding and I hate the stigma that goes with the guys who spend everything on gear and prep and shit and can't afford life. When you hear those stories it makes bodybuilding sound as destructive as hard drug addictions with people spending all their money and not being responsible.

So I am always interested in ways people ca build impressive and even competitive physiques without losing their financial stability. If you really wanna use everything and use only the best stuff, you can rack up some big bills!

With CJC no dac, and GHRP, I only have a few months under my belt. I can say that at the dose admin mentioned, 100mcg of each 3x a day, I notice some fat loss in as little as a few weeks assuming I'm dieting for it. As for size gains, I haven't stayed on them long enough to notice yet. Hoping that'll change this time around as I'm stocking up so I have many months supply.

Definitely see where you're coming from about the budget thing. I haven't seen any of that around here fortunately, as it's a small town and there's only 1, maybe 2 other serious bodybuilders besides myself.

Edit: I did run CJC with DAC, along with EGCG and Huperzine-A last year though. Something I would definitely recommend and plan on doing again, with a higher dose of CJC. More expensive to run than without dac, if I remember right.

[jasona]

I was at my leanest. Takes about 6-8 weeks to notice. However, when you stop you don't seem to hold the gains like you do with HGH. Thats what I saw reported a lot anyhow. Never used HGH, only peptides.

I've always wondered about how well hgh muscle gains stick around, due to hyperplasia. If they stick around well, it would seem HGH is worth running even if you can't run it year-round, or have to stop running it due to funds. If the gains don't stick, it seems like it's about as useful as running a cycle of 500 mg test per week once or twice a year.

[jasona]

With CJC no dac, and GHRP, I only have a few months under my belt. I can say that at the dose admin mentioned, 100mcg of each 3x a day, I notice some fat loss in as little as a few weeks assuming I'm dieting for it. As for size gains, I haven't stayed on them long enough to notice yet. Hoping that'll change this time around as I'm stocking up so I have many months supply.

Definitely see where you're coming from about the budget thing. I haven't seen any of that around here fortunately, as it's a small town and there's only 1, maybe 2 other serious bodybuilders besides myself.

Edit: I did run CJC with DAC, along with EGCG and Huperzine-A last year though. Something I would definitely recommend and plan on doing again, with a higher dose of CJC. More expensive to run than without dac, if I remember right.

Thanks for your experience. Even if it only keeps you lean without adding a lot of mass, it seems like it would go well with an offseason protocol. AAS and calories and insulin providing the mass, the peptides maintaining reasonable off-season leanness?

I'd be interested to know the effects of the peptides without changing any other variables, like dieting for leanness while taking them, just adding them into an existing drug protocol/off-season diet. Also what are the upper tolerable limits? Or at least, the dosage at which returns are extremely limited? For $60 per month, I might try them, and ramp the dosages up and up until I hit that limit. If they're so cheap relative to HGH, seems like people would have some experience mega-dosing them.

[Admin]

I've always wondered about how well hgh muscle gains stick around, due to hyperplasia. If they stick around well, it would seem HGH is worth running even if you can't run it year-round, or have to stop running it due to funds. If the gains don't stick, it seems like it's about as useful as running a cycle of 500 mg test per week once or twice a year.

If you're going to go for using it for muscle gain alone, I'd opt with using it at high dosages per week. I've read of many protocols for obtaining muscle, but most are short high burst dosages. 10-20ius 3x per week PWO, stuff like that.

Thats if you cant go with the usual doses of 4-5ius per day, then ramping to 8-10ius for a 6-8 week burst for growth, then down again. Obviously that costs a ton.

You should try peptides, they're cheaper and you might like them. The food increase will mean more gains anyway that will stick even if you finish using them. I literally was an animal after GHRP-6 at 100-200mcg shot at once. I downed 2 pints of milk once as I couldn't get any solid food and I have problems with lactose! Its effects people differently of course, made me an animal. Great for bulking.

[Bull]

Thanks for your experience. Even if it only keeps you lean without adding a lot of mass, it seems like it would go well with an offseason protocol. AAS and calories and insulin providing the mass, the peptides maintaining reasonable off-season leanness?

I'd be interested to know the effects of the peptides without changing any other variables, like dieting for leanness while taking them, just adding them into an existing drug protocol/off-season diet. Also what are the upper tolerable limits? Or at least, the dosage at which returns are extremely limited? For $60 per month, I might try them, and ramp the dosages up and up until I hit that limit. If they're so cheap relative to HGH, seems like people would have some experience mega-dosing them.

I believe with the GHRPs, after 100mcg, it has diminishing returns. For example you get 100% of 100mcg. At 200mcg, you get 150mcg. 50% of the extra 100mcg. Add another 100mcg, you get 25% of that, and so on. I don't know if that's legit or not, but it'll basically empty out the gh your thyroid stored, and there's only so much from what I understand. If anything, you could dose more frequent at 100mcg.

But yeah definitely, it'll help keep your lean during the off season. It's helping me, that's for sure.

[OnTheSauce]

Jasona, I used them for about six months. Got tired of the timed pinning. Didn't notice a whole bunch other than the hunger. Which was nice. I'll stick to gh lol. As far as the burst gh thing, that's what Kevin does. He can't afford high dose for extended periods. So he will do 4 weeks at 10, 4 weeks at 3.33iu. And uses the insulin during the high month

[OnTheSauce]

Right now I'm using 10iu a day hgh and 40iu novolog (20iu 2x a day). Trying to add a little more size while down on my hrt dose of test. Contest prep starts march 16. Need to keep trying to bulk til then

[Admin]

Jasona, I used them for about six months. Got tired of the timed pinning. Didn't notice a whole bunch other than the hunger. Which was nice. I'll stick to gh lol. As far as the burst gh thing, that's what Kevin does. He can't afford high dose for extended periods. So he will do 4 weeks at 10, 4 weeks at 3.33iu. And uses the insulin during the high month

Yes, 3x per day pinning sucks, even if its subcutaneous. Hunger is no joke though.

Be good to see someone here run that HGH protocol with pics.

[jasona]

Yes, 3x per day pinning sucks, even if its subcutaneous. Hunger is no joke though.

Be good to see someone here run that HGH protocol with pics.

I don't mind frequent pinning, I pin 5+ times slin each day due to being diabetic. The only problem is when the pinning schedule is SUPER rigid.

[Admin]

I don't mind frequent pinning, I pin 5+ times slin each day due to being diabetic. The only problem is when the pinning schedule is SUPER rigid.

Then you may like them. Not sure about their approach as your diabetic, same as HGH I imagine.

[AnabolicGainz]

Jittery where you at?

I'm here. Just haven't been around or read the last page or two.

I'm thinking about doing something.

[AnabolicGainz]

Wait, Jason, your diabetic? I didn't know that. Was that before AAS use?

[OnTheSauce]

Wait, Jason, your diabetic? I didn't know that. Was that before AAS use?

Yeah