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  • OnTheSauce
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    My legs are torched. Trainer bout killed me yesterday. Two more weeks til juice time. Body weight has dropped more than id like but I'm sure it'll bounce right back. Legs are looking a lot more defined and veiny. They will be first to come in for me.

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  • OnTheSauce
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    I do all that everyday plus have an infant and make it to gym and get my meals in. 8-7 today without even a lunch break

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  • AnabolicGainz
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    It's been a very tough week for me. Worked so much. Worked 12 hours yesterday. 11 day before. 10 day before that. That doesn't include the hour drive home. Literally time consuming. Up by 5:45 every day. And I didn't eat too well late this week.

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  • OnTheSauce
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    If you aren't eating you'll get smaller. Regardless of gear

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  • AnabolicGainz
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    Had a decent leg workout. Got a good pump. Didn't do squats and I am pretty damn sure that's why I have been having tingling sensations. Pinched a nerve back there. Been feeling better. I'll be switching to LA Fitness for dat dere hack squat. So much hnnngggggg for dat machine.

    Also, can you get leaner/lose weight on a cruise without even trying? I barely get 6 to 7 hours of sleep and barley eat enough. I work very hard at the gym. But yet I feel smaller.

    I still haven't gotten tested for HIV yet lmao. Will do so once I have some funds sprung up.

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  • OnTheSauce
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    Lack of sleep (baby) and lowered cals is starting to get to me. Feeling run down and tired a lot. Taking a week off from the gym the 22-29

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  • OnTheSauce
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    161 is being generous. You are going to lose a lot more than 10lbs. That much is water alone. Plus the 8-9% bf you will have to lose...

    I was 232 when diet started, leaner than you. And I plan to be 205 or so on stage

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  • AnabolicGainz
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    So my comp weight is 161 according to some dude. Fuck.

    anyway, i had a long day. kind of mad at my life so i'm going to lift anyway, even though I think i have carpal tunnel. just going to fight through the pain and probably agitate it and make it worse lol

    i'm kind of getting tired of my job. The drive to/from work is the killer and the work is very mundane.

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  • OnTheSauce
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    5lbs of meat. This lasts me two days

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  • OnTheSauce
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    Getting about time for some more pics. Down to 221 from 232. Lost some muscle but also some fat. Should add the muscle right back when we add the juice in april

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  • AnabolicGainz
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    Had a great back workout tonight but was tired. Maybe hit it too hard and didn't have enough energy. Barely ate any carbs today.

    I plan on going back to my winter bulk drug protocol but eating very lean to fill out and then either 12 to 10 weeks out, switch to cutting protocol.

    However, when I did come off my winter bulk blast, It literally took me a few weeks to lose the water weight. I was at 180lbs at my height then and now I'm 173lbs at 13.3% (weighed and measured BF tonight). So I think I'm getting leaner.

    I'll send you some pics I took Jason. They're on my shitty camera phone that's a phone like from the year 2003 lmao. It's that old.

    And that drug protocol jason, 700 tren. That was suggested from a guy who's about 6 to 8 weeks out (not sure how close to be exact). I don't plan on doing 700 at all. Too damn high. Will start at 350 to feel it out.

    I think I can lose the water weight from npp/prop pretty fast.

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  • jasona
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    Originally posted by AnabolicGainz View Post
    Been up to make a good excel spreadsheet of my drug protocol. It's coming along slowly before Monday.

    Jason, I have been researching around. Here are a few things I found from some users for a pre contest prep drug protocol:

    - It seems like some guys like to do high test for a few weeks along with maybe deca or npp.
    - Some guys can't handle tren a for 16 weeks. Some think 8 week is perfect.
    - William Llewellyn believes that after 10 to 12 weeks, gains come to a very slow crawl
    - I even saw a few users who liked a water oral like sdrol or something 3 weeks before show
    - Some like to take tren, winny, primo or mast 8 weeks out before the show after switching over from water compounds. It can be hard to lose that water retention though.


    I'll be doing the bulk of my research this weekend before I start.
    I can see high test w/ deca or npp if you're comfy with a longer blast (which I am). If you're good with like a 20 week blast you could do 8 weeks of that and then switch to contest prep drugs at 12 weeks out.

    Both OTS and I agree 16 weeks is a little long on tren. 10-12 probably good for prep, depending on individual.

    For what my opinion is worth, I think the water thing with certain AAS is vastly overblown. In my experience, it makes only a small difference. With that said, that small difference can be a big factor when you're standing next to a drier guy in your comp. So it's a thing but it's not a huge thing. I don't think you should overthink it. Just make sure to stop all long-ester test at least 6-8 weeks out, use prop, and drop test altogether about a week out. Don't use any wet orals and make sure to keep estro low. A diuretic will also help. Beyond that, you should be good as long as you are truly very lean.



    Originally posted by AnabolicGainz View Post
    We'll see brah. I did some posing and I think I'm at 12% or 13% at least without drugs.

    A guy who's in pre contest at the moment said for me to do this instead:

    I would do 250mg prop, 350 npp, 350mg tren for the first 8 weeks.
    Last eight weeks, 250mg prop, 350 npp, 700mg tren, 350mg mast.
    At 4 weeks out, add the sdrol and winny.
    At 2 weeks out, drop the prop to 175mg (25mg/day), and don't use it at all the last week before the show.

    What do you guys think?
    I might only suggest dropping the 350 npp for the last 8 weeks, as your tren is pretty high, but it's up to you. Your body, your prep, etc.

    Bodybuilding drugs protocols are the real art of the sport, as there are many different methods and different approaches, and no two people respond identically. IMO, that makes it so much fun. Talking to people and learning about their methods and philosophies truly fascinates me.

    So I would urge you to follow the method that YOU have the most confidence in. You'll be more motivated to follow a plan you feel strongest about. Just make detailed notes about what you do and how you think it works, and of course update us.

    Fucking pics pls!!!!!



    Originally posted by OnTheSauce View Post
    Stress makes everything worse
    This. I think you could probably benefit from some stress reduction type of meditation, breathing, etc. Good stuff there. Yoga and Taiji are great as well. I know we're all manly lifters, but fuk it. Lennox Lewis used to practice ballet and he could KTFO us all with his right hand tied behind his back. So I have no shame in admitting that I practice yoga, taiji, and meditative breathing as methods of improving my stress.

    Additionally, some of these ancillary activities can make you a better poser by improving balance, flexibility, and coordination.

    Arnold and Franco were training with a ballerina in the opening moments of Pumping Iron, so why not us too?



    Originally posted by Peterbrah View Post
    All of your anus' belong to me.
    YES!!!!!!!!!

    MY MAN!!!!!

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  • Peterbrah
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    All of your anus' belong to me.

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  • OnTheSauce
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    Stress makes everything worse

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  • AnabolicGainz
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    Originally posted by OnTheSauce View Post
    Get a massage. Look on groupon and deal chicken for a cheap one. Helps tremendously
    Just took some flexirel, a prescribed muscle relaxant I got 2 years ago. And drank 1 beer. Never drink but decided to tonight just to even further relax.

    It might be I'm stressed out all the time. lol

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